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Manly Hopes for the New Year

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Canteen Worker, Jan 1, 2006.

  1. Canteen Worker

    Canteen Worker Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Last year, despite the overachieved status, was a definite improvement and a step in the right direction for the Manly club. Our defence in the first month or so of 2005 was a big development on what had been seen in the previous seasons and some strong early wins gave supporters hopes of a dominant forward pack and strong, resilient defence. The first 10 weeks even gave false hopes of a big impact in the semis.

    Sadly injuries, lack of depth and a loss of form plus deficiencies in the centres and halves led to a significant slump and saw us limp into the finals, to ultimately make little impact on the post-season.

    What concerned me a number of times was the media talking up of Manly, both around Rep time (pick 8 of us), around the time we played Brisbane (we are the real thing) and some of the nonsense involving Hoppa, prior to his senseless (but predictable) demise. We proved we could talk it up but consistently doing it on the paddock seemed beyond us. It also seemed as if certain deficiencies were not really managed, the five-eighth situation being the main evidence of this.

    2006 is a fresh season and the big question is - Can Manly move forward again from being fringe contenders to become the REAL DEAL?

    A few things give me hope:

    1. Every team that has been 8th in the McIntyre system (bar one - and that is Canberra in 2004) has gone on to improve in subsequent seasons.

    2. Manly has recruited well in capturing a dominant half (Orford) and a top line centre in Bell. Both positions have been Achilles' heels for the Eagles in the past few years.

    3. Players such as Anthony Watmough and Brett Stewart continue to improve and will make even more significant contributions given an injury free run.

    4. The influence of Ben Kennedy and Steve Menzies, plus the taste of semi-final football has given our team some confidence that they can mix it with the best.

    5. We played so well in the first few weeks of 2005 and showed that we do have what it takes.

    6. None of the players we have seen leave the club are huge losses.

    7. Administratively we seem to be on the improve and the management of the club and long term sustainability seem to be effectively managed.

    In making predictions for 2006 I wish to be very cautious as a number of things need to be addressed before I can show any confidence in our great club to continue to climb out of the pit in which we have found ourselves.

    * We need to develop a consistent defence that will stand up to pressure. We still conceded too many points in the second half of the 2005.

    * A dominant Forward rotation is essential. Our front-row must stand up and support Kennedy, Menzies and Watmough, both in defence in the metres game. (We were the lowest metre earners of any NRL club last year and if this can't be turned around I fear for our season.) King, Kite and the other forwards must stand up and be counted in order that Orford and co have the room to 'strut their stuff!'

    * Our away form must improve. Our record in the past few seasons has been abysmal.

    * We must start to show some form in night games as we have many of them in 2006. We need to demonstrate the same confidence and commitment shown on Sunday afternoons at Brookvale if we are going to be up there with the big boys. Our survival also depends on TV games, many which are on Friday nights.

    * We need to see the injection of some younger players - people like Matt Ballin, George Rose, Kain Cleal, Glenn Stewart, Adam Cuthbertson etc need to be introduced to the big time and start to make an impact. The emergence of a new star or two is also highly desirable - there are some with big wraps that will hopefully step up.

    * The five-eighth position is a bit of a riddle. Witt had some very good games in 2005 but lost confidence in defence and lost the confidence of his coach. Monaghan may wish to play there and some younger players may put their hands up. Des Hasler must address this matter as Steve Menzies at pivot will not solve the matter.

    * We need a top-notch centre to support Bell. The emergence of Steve Matai gave some hope last year but with Ashley Alberts being regarded as one of the best prospects in the country several years ago and rated by none less than Steve Renouf, it is hoped that an injury free run will see him realise his great potential.

    * The captaincy issue needs to be positively managed. We need a resilient on-field leader. The negative 'whif ' of the Monaghan leadership era may lead to a new captain in 2006.

    * It is hoped that a top winger will emerge in order that we defend strongly on the flanks and finish movements effectively.

    In considering all these matters and there are surely more, it is obvious that the form and impact of Orford is going to be pivotal and that a lot of our hopes for 2006 will rest on his shoulders. Injury free runs for our players, good medical treatment and a commitment to fitness and work ethic will be balanced by some luck plus discipline in keeping 'onside' with referees. The development of confidence and experience in our coach, the continued recruitment and success of our junior teams may also be other planks that will contribute to a season of success in 2006.

    To realistically consider where we might end up is very difficult as the season ahead poses many questions. I can't see Manly as a premiership contender, though I think realistically we should be aiming to be a top 4 side. The Roosters, Panthers and Dogs will be back with a vengeance in 2006 and the Cowboys, Broncos, Dragons and Eels have unfinished business. The Tigers look a lot stronger and the Sharks have recruited well.

    Go Manly - we will be riding with you all the way!!!! Bring on March!!!
     
  2. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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  3. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    nice read,
    Manly also needs to blood some young Backrowers for the impending departure of BK and Beaver otherwise it may be to big a hole to fill
     
  4. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    Ben Creagh might be on the market in 6 months time.
     
  5. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    yep , he would go well in a manly team as would cooper if we miss out on Lyon
     
  6. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Great read Canteen Worker.

    The club has said that it wanted to add depth to our team. We now have a number of players vying for positions.

    REALISTIC CHANCES OF 1ST GRADE:-

    Fullback:- Lennon / Stewart
    Wing:- Stephenson / Robertson / Hicks / Creary / Alberts
    Centre:- Bell / Alberts / Matai / Stephenson / Halden / Hicks / Meaney
    5/8:- Witt / Monaghan / Wells / Dunley / Williamson / Burns / Cherry
    1/2:- Orford / Witt / Monaghan / Burns / Dunley /
    Prop:- Bryant / Cleal / Finefeuiaki / King / Kite / Leuluai / Morwood / Rose / Curtis / Robson / Styles / Toshack / Ta'akimoeaka
    Hooker:- Monaghan / Williamson / Dunley / Ballin
    2nd Row:- Cleal / Cuthbertson / Kennedy / Menzies / Stewart / Tutt / Watmough / Williamson
    Lock:- Kennedy / Menzies / Cuthbertson / Wells / Stewart

    I also think the important thing will be captaincy. I suggest a rotational process ALA Sydney Swans. See who fits best on the field. Additionally, who says only ONE captain can be on the field? Yes, one to talk to the ref...but additional leaders. My ideas for captaincy are, and in order:-

    01. Steven Bell
    02. Ben Kennedy
    03. Matt Orford
    04. Michael Monaghan
    05. Steve Menzies

    As for 2007 players. I hope Manly target Stuart Fielden (if Beaver retires to England. Brent Kite to 2nd row.

    I hope Jamie Lyon joins Bell in the centres. For some strange reason, I am having these shocking visions of Alberts playing in the centres with The Gold Coast Titans. Perfect timing with contract too. I HOPE he is talked into re-signing with us, and lives up to expectation.

    Therefore, 2007 would be something along the lines of:-

    01. Brett Stewart
    02. Paul Stephenson
    03. Steven Bell
    04. Jamie Lyon
    05. Chris Hicks
    06. Michael Witt
    07. Matt Orford
    08. Stuart Fielden
    09. Michael Monaghan
    10. Mark Bryant
    11. Anthony Watmough
    12. Brent Kite
    13. Ben Kennedy

    14. Shayne Dunley
    15. Kylie Leuluai
    16. Luke Willimason
    17. Jason King
     
  7. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    YART ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. Fluffy

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    Id say our depth is pretty thin if Toshack is playing prop.
     
  9. byso

    byso Well-Known Member

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    Nice work Ryan.

    Can't see Styles playing prop. He's either a centre or in the 2nd Row
     
  10. Jatz Crackers

    Jatz Crackers Moderator Staff Member

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    Ryan, its an intersting point you make about dual captaincy. One to handle the ref and one for motivation.

    Monas could be a great captain, if only he wasnt so prone to have brain explosions when things (ref decisions) doesnt go his/teams way. But having said that, I think most people would agree he lacked little when it come down to revving up the troops. I say thats where his captaincy talents lie.

    My vote then would be Monas for onfield team motivational captain and Bell for the onfield ref & offield media captaincy obligations.

    I think Menzies, BK and Ox should be left to concentrate on their own game.

    i like the idea !
     
  11. The Fonz

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    Stuart Fielden was just named the best forward in the world. He is payed on superleague wages. Something tells me not many clubs in Australia could afford him.
     
  12. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Fonz - he has stated he wants to come down under next year regardless.....and I'd take him in the team. Apparently he knows Elliott from Canberra well, and he might venture there.
     
  13. The Fonz

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    Could be a good signing then with beaver and BK approaching retirement.
     

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