PONTIAN SEA EAGLE
Bencher
Tooves would be as good as any coach if he had the players.As for susan that was a brilliant post well summed up.
Cutting 2V for the sake of change is straight out the the Parra don't matter management model. Just plain dumb I say! Gee Wayne Bennett coached a team last year that nearly won the spoon.Re Hiku I don't doubt his ability but in today's game being a footballer and not an athlete goes against you( which is a total joke). it is hard to see where he fits in the modern game. He lacks the acceleration the great fullbacks and three quarters have and struggles to read the play in defence(his defence is great at fullback because he doesn't need to make decisions). He could prove me wrong but I don't think he is creative enough or has the kicking game to be a 6. I am also loathe to cut players mid contract unless they are happy to change clubs (for obvious reasons)Is he contracted till 16 or 17?
In terms of who we replace Toovey with,the modern game also does not work like that.Interim coaches are the norm and to be honest can the results be any worse.Cutting Toovey won't be done because there is someone better ready to go,it will be done to make a statement that change is in the air.Agree with it or not that is how this stuff always unfolds.
He don't want forwards who are only capable to hold their own We want forwards that have the ability to make it their own and until we get them we will not be competitive .Very true. The forwards haven't been great but they held their own against the Storm and the Dogs and have at least been trying to play to the best of their limited abilities. Same can't be said for our star-studded backline or our million-dollar halves, who have been terrible in attack and turnstiles in defence. We should have beaten the Dogs. We should have beaten the Dragons. We didn't. Even yesterday we had enough opportunities to score plenty of points. Again, we didn't.
You are still in the 30 YEAR PARRAMATTA WOODEN SPOON WILDERNESS What would you and your pathetic club know about leadership dick head LOL2V needs to go.
It's obvious players like Foran and Watmough have stated they they wanted to go to a club who's leadership was strong with great player relations.
I think we should go with Brian Smith.
He don't want forwards who are only capable to hold their own We want forwards that have the ability to make it their own and until we get them we will not be competitive .
Hopefully Toovey is not blindsided with the news while appearing on NRL 360.My comments re Toovey are what I am sure will happen, not that I agree with it happening and how it happens.
On a side note anyone else disturbed by the gray in snakes stubble, in the presses it looks like he has spit on his face.
Sounds like you want a new coach and different players wouldn't it be easier for you just to support a different team?1 Tooves,love him or hate him is gone.The club will be 1 and 9 in a month and if Tooves is to get the respectful exit he deserves it needs to be done now and not after another month of losses when he will be copping a lot more rubbish than he deserves.if he so desires I hope he stays involved in our club.I also hope the club doesn't go down the Tim Sheens / Brian Smith dinasour route to replace him.The are more Robinsons out there.We need to find one.
2. The halves.The 6 must go now.He has disrespected the famous no.6 for too long.The other bloke is trying but other than 20 minutes against Melbourne he has been ordinary..I am ambivalent here.Send him packing or he plays.We may win a game or 2 on his back at some stage and that may help out re the spoon.Wouldnt concern me either way what they do with him.I hope the club goes the way of chasing a young turk combined with an experienced hand in the 6 and 7. It is too tough a game to go with youth in both positions.
3 Matt Ballin Like everyone I love this bloke,especially after the carry on by the million dollar babies, but if the club thinks playing him for 80 minutes till the end of 2017 is the way forward they are deluding themselves.Without the superstars there his lack of creativity will be exposed.He has zero impact in the red zone.We need some spark out of dummy half in a big hurry.
4 Peta Hiku. I just can't work out what to do with this bloke and given his recent upgrade he is not an inexpensive player.His best spot seems to be as a safe defensive style fullback as per the 2013 Roosters semi but in the modern day game he is not in the same class as Many of the top custodians running around.He has skill but I just don't see them as being sufficient to be an elite player in a particular position.The club needs to put him on the market in my opinion.We have other more pressing issues.
5. Jamie Buhrer. Probably our best forward but is he overrated ? The comparisons to Gift are way off the mark and probably come about because of the small size at similar stages of their career.Gift at his best is tough as nails and a great ball player?Jamie is a runner and a good player but not good enough to build a pack around.We need some dynamic ball runners in the back row as badly as we need halves.In a much better pack Jamie can shine.
6. Jake T and Ligii Sao have the talent to be top flight props.Give them a whole season to develop.Other than Symonds and Lui the rest of our pack are reserve graders unless BJ fully recovers from his injury.The club needs to get its head out of the sand and recognise that.
7 In Gutherson and Tom T we have some fantastic outside back talent.It is too late for Clinton this year but the other bloke needs to play every week.We need to learn something from his debut yesterday.In a rebuilding phase there is zero to lose in trying new talent.A team of champions for a decade meant we could take out time.Not any more! The twenties look like they have some great back talent as well which augers well.
8. Snake,Matai and Killer I thought Snake looked good in the first 2 rounds but his attitude since has been ordinary like many others.I think he has enough left in him to be valuable when the coach is changed,which is such a sad thing to say.Give Stevie his transfer if he wants it.He has earned it.We need the cash to spend in more important areas and if we released Hiku as well our war chest may be big enough.We have to find almost an entire forward pack.Killer is a must keep in a rebuild phase.Great skipper and will be invaluable in tough times ahead.
9 If Gutho ain't good enough find a f...ing goal kicker.
W e are now a serious contender for the spoon given our draw and attitude.The club need to be decisive.Their approach this year has the smell of a total clean out and rebuild about it.I hope so,because that may mean they have a definite plan.The only other explanation is madness.I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for a little while longer.Toovey and the halves fate must be sorted now.
At the time Hiku was retained I could not see much benefit from both perspectives especially Hiku---I could see his career stagnating and his future value in the next contract negotiations not increasing much----he will be seen as a safe all rounder with a touch of class.Re Hiku I don't doubt his ability but in today's game being a footballer and not an athlete goes against you( which is a total joke). it is hard to see where he fits in the modern game. He lacks the acceleration the great fullbacks and three quarters have and struggles to read the play in defence(his defence is great at fullback because he doesn't need to make decisions). He could prove me wrong but I don't think he is creative enough or has the kicking game to be a 6. I am also loathe to cut players mid contract unless they are happy to change clubs (for obvious reasons)Is he contracted till 16 or 17?
In terms of who we replace Toovey with,the modern game also does not work like that.Interim coaches are the norm and to be honest can the results be any worse.Cutting Toovey won't be done because there is someone better ready to go,it will be done to make a statement that change is in the air.Agree with it or not that is how this stuff always unfolds.
Team | P | W | L | PD | Pts |
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5 | 4 | 1 | 23 | 10 | |
5 | 4 | 1 | 14 | 10 | |
6 | 4 | 2 | 48 | 8 | |
6 | 4 | 2 | 28 | 8 | |
5 | 3 | 2 | 25 | 8 | |
5 | 3 | 2 | 14 | 8 | |
6 | 3 | 2 | 38 | 7 | |
6 | 3 | 2 | 21 | 7 | |
6 | 3 | 3 | 37 | 6 | |
6 | 3 | 3 | 16 | 6 | |
6 | 3 | 3 | -13 | 6 | |
5 | 2 | 3 | -15 | 6 | |
6 | 3 | 3 | -36 | 6 | |
6 | 2 | 4 | -5 | 4 | |
6 | 2 | 4 | -7 | 4 | |
5 | 0 | 5 | -86 | 2 | |
6 | 1 | 5 | -102 | 2 |