LOCK DCE IN FOR LIFE

[XV-1]

Manly have to sign For an as well as DCE. Hopefully both will think of the team as a whole and not hold Manly to ransom with too many $$

It was no coincidence that Matai and Tofua were very quiet without Foran playing.


BTW, when is Manly going to sign Buhrer? With Gift moving on he is even more of a priority.

 

[Technical Coach]

Come on people calm down great game but seriously you don't judge a players ability off the back of games like these, what you do enjoy in these games is the array of skills he has on display.

It's about execution under pressure in a tight game is when threads like these should pop up all over the place think Foran just last week and several other inspirational displays.

It happens way too often DCE will have a big game everyone jumps on the bandwagon then straight away the inconsistency and poor habits pop up under pressure.

Either way loving how under Toovey Manly are more capable of blowing teams away at certain times more so than the Hasler years still a long way to go though.

 

[Kevinward777]

Come on people calm down great game but seriously you don't judge a players ability off the back of games like these, what you do enjoy in these games is the array of skills he has on display.

It's about execution under pressure in a tight game is when threads like these should pop up all over the place think Foran just last week and several other inspirational displays.

It happens way too often DCE will have a big game everyone jumps on the bandwagon then straight away the inconsistency and poor habits pop up under pressure.

Either way loving how under Toovey Manly are more capable of blowing teams away at certain times more so than the Hasler years still a long way to go though.

Wow you're still here pretending not to be a Bulldogs fan.

 

[Jethro]

DCE is the best half back in the game. I hope the club keeps him for his entire career

Triple agree - all class - all that Manly Culture is about :angle:

Which angle would you like HM

 

[mozgrame]

With Foran running the show last week, we got away with a win. Excellent! With DCE running the show this week, we slaughtered them. Fantastic!! Look TC, it's a TEAM effort, week in, week out. You and I both know that. Why are you always so quick to dismiss or label DCE as inferior? At this stage of their careers, are you saying Foran is at his pinnacle, but DCE has room to improve? If that's the case....pay Cherry whatever he wants, like Napper says!

 

[voicefromthehill]

Come on people calm down great game but seriously you don't judge a players ability off the back of games like these, what you do enjoy in these games is the array of skills he has on display.

It's about execution under pressure in a tight game is when threads like these should pop up all over the place think Foran just last week and several other inspirational displays.

It happens way too often DCE will have a big game everyone jumps on the bandwagon then straight away the inconsistency and poor habits pop up under pressure.

Either way loving how under Toovey Manly are more capable of blowing teams away at certain times more so than the Hasler years still a long way to go though.

Wow you're still here pretending not to be a Bulldogs fan.

Not sure he is Kevin, base this on early posts and time he joined. Think he may be playing the general assumption to his advantage

 

[Dan]

Whilst other clubs were busy putting together massive packs and fullbacks. We seem to have invested in talented halves. Littlejohn did an incredible job today, defense needs some work but attack was awesome.

Having Foran, DCEm Little John and even Gutherson seems pretty handy, is just amazing, so much halves talent, and just a few years ago, the entire comp was pretty bare for talented halves

 

[mozgrame]

I can't believe the poster known as EagleRock had me believing we had no good halves coming through. No wonder he hasn't been around for a while now.

 

[Technical Coach]

Seriously Kevin you have got to be kidding right?

I'm a big DCE fan but he has areas in his game that suffer big time under pressure, i'm not a supporter who has a favourite player and can never find faults in their favourites.

The issue i have with DCE is he does not play square enough or straight enough for himself or others once he improves in these areas he will become one the best halves the game has seen.

The ball to a line running Buhrer was beautiful to watch, and the double pump to draw the outside defence in and pass to a deeper wider player was all class and well thought out.(I've suggested this play for years using the second man plays as decoys and going deeper or wider around the defence)

Watmough getting a try off just a simple inside hip play is just one area Manly can improve with variations and decoys on the inside, there are so many lazy inside defenders and lapses of concentration thinking the play is going to continue shifting outwards to take advantage of.

There is a try in the Cronulla game Manly scored that actually best illustrates the openings available on the inside---we too often go into auto sweeping play mode with no thought of keeping the inside honest. In this instance Foran did go back inside the previous play which showed maturity and composure to set up the next play better but during the sweeping play that resulted in a try keep an eye on the inside run i think it was JSL.

 

[Dan]

Seriously Kevin you have got to be kidding right?

I'm a big DCE fan but he has areas in his game that suffer big time under pressure, i'm not a supporter who has a favourite player and can never find faults in their favourites.

The issue i have with DCE is he does not play square enough or straight enough for himself or others once he improves in these areas he will become one the best halves the game has seen.

The ball to a line running Buhrer was beautiful to watch, and the double pump to draw the outside defence in and pass to a deeper wider player was all class and well thought out.(I've suggested this play for years using the second man plays as decoys and going deeper or wider around the defence)

Watmough getting a try off just a simple inside hip play is just one area Manly can improve with variations and decoys on the inside, there are so many lazy inside defenders and lapses of concentration thinking the play is going to continue shifting outwards to take advantage of.

There is actually a try in the Cronulla game Manly scored that actually best illustrates the openings available on the inside---we too often go into auto sweeping play mode with no thought of keeping the inside honest. In this instance Foran did go back inside the previous play which showed maturity and composure to set up the next play better but during the sweeping play that resulted in a try keep an eye on the inside run i think it was JSL.

tough task master, most experts will tell you DCE is already one of the best PLAYERS in the league and easily one of the top 3 if not top 2 halves in the game, i think cronk and thurston just edge him on experience but pure skill and natural talent drips from this guy

 

[captaincarpo]

Seriously Kevin you have got to be kidding right?

I'm a big DCE fan but he has areas in his game that suffer big time under pressure, i'm not a supporter who has a favourite player and can never find faults in their favourites.

The issue i have with DCE is he does not play square enough or straight enough for himself or others once he improves in these areas he will become one the best halves the game has seen.

The ball to a line running Buhrer was beautiful to watch, and the double pump to draw the outside defence in and pass to a deeper wider player was all class and well thought out.(I've suggested this play for years using the second man plays as decoys and going deeper or wider around the defence)

Watmough getting a try off just a simple inside hip play is just one area Manly can improve with variations and decoys on the inside, there are so many lazy inside defenders and lapses of concentration thinking the play is going to continue shifting outwards to take advantage of.

There is a try in the Cronulla game Manly scored that actually best illustrates the openings available on the inside---we too often go into auto sweeping play mode with no thought of keeping the inside honest. In this instance Foran did go back inside the previous play which showed maturity and composure to set up the next play better but during the sweeping play that resulted in a try keep an eye on the inside run i think it was JSL.

Seriously? You're kidding yourself if you don't think this kid can play! Everyone I watched the game with, all non manly fans said he should be Australia's half in the test next week! After viewing your posts over many years a lot of them have merit. This time you are just plain wrong! What more could he have done? Except in his post match interview, say " thank you linesman, thank you ball boys?"
Get over your ridiculously over scrutinising crap!

 

[niccipops]

Can play some football apparently this DCE.
When I was at Brookie for the sharkies match I really appreciated it when Cherry shook my hand and said, "Thanks for coming."
It didn't matter that he said this to hundreds of others. I'm claiming it personally.
Champion bloke and player and it would be absolutely awesome to have him a Sea Eagle for life.

 

[Technical Coach]

With Foran running the show last week, we got away with a win. Excellent! With DCE running the show this week, we slaughtered them. Fantastic!! Look TC, it's a TEAM effort, week in, week out. You and I both know that. Why are you always so quick to dismiss or label DCE as inferior? At this stage of their careers, are you saying Foran is at his pinnacle, but DCE has room to improve? If that's the case....pay Cherry whatever he wants, like Napper says!

DCE is not inferior, he has a more rounded skillset than Foran he just falls into many bad habits that need to be trained out of him.

Way too often he gets man of the match and does not deserve it, or people look at his great games and just forget the bad ones due to Manly still winning.

People tend to forget i felt Forans development was stagnating under Hasler and was looking predictable until Joey arrived,(Both halves have improved big time under Joey) just because i mention a flaw or performance issue does not mean i am not a fan, same with Brett Stewart.

Too often fans of players just don't want to see the negatives just enjoy all the positives and they can do no wrong.

Way too many people on this site were bagging Andrew Johns saying he is not doing much for their development(which at the time myself and a few others defended his appointment), i don't see those same people offering compliments about Joeys involvement now.

I pay compliments just as much as i see technical issues that come across as me being "negative" in some readers eyes but i'm not going to change.

 

[Napper]

Seriously Kevin you have got to be kidding right?

I'm a big DCE fan but he has areas in his game that suffer big time under pressure, i'm not a supporter who has a favourite player and can never find faults in their favourites.

The issue i have with DCE is he does not play square enough or straight enough for himself or others once he improves in these areas he will become one the best halves the game has seen.

The ball to a line running Buhrer was beautiful to watch, and the double pump to draw the outside defence in and pass to a deeper wider player was all class and well thought out.(I've suggested this play for years using the second man plays as decoys and going deeper or wider around the defence)

Watmough getting a try off just a simple inside hip play is just one area Manly can improve with variations and decoys on the inside, there are so many lazy inside defenders and lapses of concentration thinking the play is going to continue shifting outwards to take advantage of.

There is actually a try in the Cronulla game Manly scored that actually best illustrates the openings available on the inside---we too often go into auto sweeping play mode with no thought of keeping the inside honest. In this instance Foran did go back inside the previous play which showed maturity and composure to set up the next play better but during the sweeping play that resulted in a try keep an eye on the inside run i think it was JSL.

tough task master, most experts will tell you DCE is already one of the best PLAYERS in the league and easily one of the top 3 if not top 2 halves in the game, i think cronk and thurston just edge him on experience but pure skill and natural talent drips from this guy

He's the best half/Five-eighth in the comp. Cronk and Soward slightly better short kicking game and that's it.

Running game
Passing
Support play
vision
Defence (besides Foran)

He trumps them all.

 

[captaincarpo]

With Foran running the show last week, we got away with a win. Excellent! With DCE running the show this week, we slaughtered them. Fantastic!! Look TC, it's a TEAM effort, week in, week out. You and I both know that. Why are you always so quick to dismiss or label DCE as inferior? At this stage of their careers, are you saying Foran is at his pinnacle, but DCE has room to improve? If that's the case....pay Cherry whatever he wants, like Napper says!

DCE is not inferior, he has a more rounded skillset than Foran he just falls into many bad habits that need to be trained out of him.

Way too often he gets man of the match and does not deserve it, or people look at his great games and just forget the bad ones due to Manly still winning.

People tend to forget i felt Forans development was stagnating under Hasler and was looking predictable until Joey arrived,(Both halves have improved big time under Joey) just because i mention a flaw or performance issue does not mean i am not a fan, same with Brett Stewart.

Too often fans of players just don't want to see the negatives just enjoy all the positives and they can do no wrong.

Way too many people on this site were bagging Andrew Johns saying he is not doing much for their development(which at the time myself and a few others defended his appointment), i don't see those same people offering compliments about Joeys involvement now.

I pay compliments just as much as i see technical issues that come across as me being "negative" in some readers eyes but i'm not going to change.

So what exactly was the flaw with setting up 6 tries today? Seriously? You are not the great technical coach you claim to be if you are finding faults today!

 

[6/71]

Seriously Kevin you have got to be kidding right?

I'm a big DCE fan but he has areas in his game that suffer big time under pressure, i'm not a supporter who has a favourite player and can never find faults in their favourites.

The issue i have with DCE is he does not play square enough or straight enough for himself or others once he improves in these areas he will become one the best halves the game has seen.

The ball to a line running Buhrer was beautiful to watch, and the double pump to draw the outside defence in and pass to a deeper wider player was all class and well thought out.(I've suggested this play for years using the second man plays as decoys and going deeper or wider around the defence)

Watmough getting a try off just a simple inside hip play is just one area Manly can improve with variations and decoys on the inside, there are so many lazy inside defenders and lapses of concentration thinking the play is going to continue shifting outwards to take advantage of.

There is a try in the Cronulla game Manly scored that actually best illustrates the openings available on the inside---we too often go into auto sweeping play mode with no thought of keeping the inside honest. In this instance Foran did go back inside the previous play which showed maturity and composure to set up the next play better but during the sweeping play that resulted in a try keep an eye on the inside run i think it was JSL.

Seriously? You're kidding yourself if you don't think this kid can play! Everyone I watched the game with, all non manly fans said he should be Australia's half in the test next week! After viewing your posts over many years a lot of them have merit. This time you are just plain wrong! What more could he have done? Except in his post match interview, say " thank you linesman, thank you ball boys?"
Get over your ridiculously over scrutinising crap!

Some people are employed within a system as developers and judges of talent. Some people like to pretend they are on the internet.

I'm sure TC could up DCE's efficiency with just a twenty minute chat over a coffee... At the very least he would have a better result than that nobody hack Johns.

The bloke is a flog.

 

[Technical Coach]

With Foran running the show last week, we got away with a win. Excellent! With DCE running the show this week, we slaughtered them. Fantastic!! Look TC, it's a TEAM effort, week in, week out. You and I both know that. Why are you always so quick to dismiss or label DCE as inferior? At this stage of their careers, are you saying Foran is at his pinnacle, but DCE has room to improve? If that's the case....pay Cherry whatever he wants, like Napper says!

DCE is not inferior, he has a more rounded skillset than Foran he just falls into many bad habits that need to be trained out of him.

Way too often he gets man of the match and does not deserve it, or people look at his great games and just forget the bad ones due to Manly still winning.

People tend to forget i felt Forans development was stagnating under Hasler and was looking predictable until Joey arrived,(Both halves have improved big time under Joey) just because i mention a flaw or performance issue does not mean i am not a fan, same with Brett Stewart.

Too often fans of players just don't want to see the negatives just enjoy all the positives and they can do no wrong.

Way too many people on this site were bagging Andrew Johns saying he is not doing much for their development(which at the time myself and a few others defended his appointment), i don't see those same people offering compliments about Joeys involvement now.

I pay compliments just as much as i see technical issues that come across as me being "negative" in some readers eyes but i'm not going to change.

So what exactly was the flaw with setting up 6 tries today? Seriously? You are not the great technical coach you claim to be if you are finding faults today!

Did i say he had faults in his game today i'm talking about his history as a player.

Some people like to twist my comments around seriously grow up.

 

[torana355]

Seriously Kevin you have got to be kidding right?

I'm a big DCE fan but he has areas in his game that suffer big time under pressure, i'm not a supporter who has a favourite player and can never find faults in their favourites.

The issue i have with DCE is he does not play square enough or straight enough for himself or others once he improves in these areas he will become one the best halves the game has seen.

Regardless of the fact he can improve (nobody is perfect) it does not change the fact he is one of the top halves in the game and that we need to keep him at all costs. Also im sorry to say but when some of the games great footy minds like Johns and Sterlo rate DCE that means more then the opinion of someone that i assume has never played first grade.

 

[Technical Coach]

Seriously Kevin you have got to be kidding right?

I'm a big DCE fan but he has areas in his game that suffer big time under pressure, i'm not a supporter who has a favourite player and can never find faults in their favourites.

The issue i have with DCE is he does not play square enough or straight enough for himself or others once he improves in these areas he will become one the best halves the game has seen.

The ball to a line running Buhrer was beautiful to watch, and the double pump to draw the outside defence in and pass to a deeper wider player was all class and well thought out.(I've suggested this play for years using the second man plays as decoys and going deeper or wider around the defence)

Watmough getting a try off just a simple inside hip play is just one area Manly can improve with variations and decoys on the inside, there are so many lazy inside defenders and lapses of concentration thinking the play is going to continue shifting outwards to take advantage of.

There is a try in the Cronulla game Manly scored that actually best illustrates the openings available on the inside---we too often go into auto sweeping play mode with no thought of keeping the inside honest. In this instance Foran did go back inside the previous play which showed maturity and composure to set up the next play better but during the sweeping play that resulted in a try keep an eye on the inside run i think it was JSL.

Seriously? You're kidding yourself if you don't think this kid can play! Everyone I watched the game with, all non manly fans said he should be Australia's half in the test next week! After viewing your posts over many years a lot of them have merit. This time you are just plain wrong! What more could he have done? Except in his post match interview, say " thank you linesman, thank you ball boys?"
Get over your ridiculously over scrutinising crap!

Some people are employed within a system as developers and judges of talent. Some people like to pretend they are on the internet.

I'm sure TC could up DCE's efficiency with just a twenty minute chat over a coffee... At the very least he would have a better result than that nobody hack Johns.

The bloke is a flog.

Johns has been one of the big reasons our attack has improved over the last 2yrs full stop.

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Seriously Kevin you have got to be kidding right?

I'm a big DCE fan but he has areas in his game that suffer big time under pressure, i'm not a supporter who has a favourite player and can never find faults in their favourites.

The issue i have with DCE is he does not play square enough or straight enough for himself or others once he improves in these areas he will become one the best halves the game has seen.

Regardless of the fact he can improve (nobody is perfect) it does not change the fact he is one of the top halves in the game and that we need to keep him at all costs.

I have a saying "Perfection is imperfection in itself" you always have to look for areas of improvement.

 

[6/71]

I wasn't saying Johns was a flog...