Just watching NRL on Fox and watching how Immature Kimmorley was laughing and saying "Manly fans should thank Des for all he has done" and saying Manly are deserved favourites and laughing like he doesn't mean it. His poor professionalism is Probably a very good indicator of why he was such an over-rated failure of a player. He pretty much got Kevin Moore and Ricky Stuart sacked with his poor leadership and every club he left improved. I think it's good for us they believe they have it won already. It was really hard to watch the history of Des and Tooves can't believe that Des is really happy to be there in his heart of hearts. "THEY MAY TAKE OUR COACHES AND A PLAYER OR TWO, BUT THEY WILL NEVER BE MANLY!"