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Just Do It.

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Loobs, Oct 6, 2016.

  1. Loobs

    Loobs I am not really Scott Penn Premium Member

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    FFS, please!


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  2. TimmyQ

    TimmyQ Active Member

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    I remember reading not long ago he said he'd happily go to rugby in a heartbeat if he got offered plenty of $$$$$... I think he'd be a good fit with the stomping rucking/eye gouging brigade.. 'Seeya!!!'
     
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  3. Lyonstomenzies

    Lyonstomenzies Well-Known Member

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    He sort of has a point though. The Australian selectors are happy to have some players in the team that have done some terrible things in the past. But they are from QLD so it's ok....Well technically from NSW but they played for Mal already and he says there all good now.
     
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  4. Turbo1

    Turbo1 Scott Penn is a **** head

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    Dugan, Ferguson, Friend and Holmes have all had troubles.
     
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  5. TimmyQ

    TimmyQ Active Member

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    Look its a tricky one isn't it - difficult retrospectively punishing blokes for stuff they've done years ago for example. But if its a line in the sand that starts NOW then I think its a great thing. Players that bring the game into disrepute should not be rewarded with Origin or National jerseys. We have to send a message to players that being a very well compensated full time footy player is a privilege and with those privileges come certain obligations and accountabilities. Most clubs will happily tolerate appalling player behaviour from their stars because they win footy games and if that's how they wanna roll, 'great.' Good luck with keeping sponsors.. But for the Rep powers that be to take a stand re selection criteria sends a great message to the community that SOME people in the NRL actually have moral/ethical standards, and that's something we need.
     
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  6. Lyonstomenzies

    Lyonstomenzies Well-Known Member

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    Very true I hope they stick to thier guns as some of the indiscretions of a few of them have attracted the police in the past and the NRL were happy to have them play.
     
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  7. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    It's Fifita. Who gives a sh!t.
     
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  8. southsideeagle

    southsideeagle Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    I'm ok with the stance the NRL have taken. Fifita used NRL and his privileged position to make a statement. I can understand if he had privately supported Kieran but the NRL expects players to toe the line if they are going to receive massive pay cheques. It is the NRL that defies out the money that pays the players.

    The line has been drawn .. just wish JT would shut his mouth. It just makes him look like a hypocrite.
     
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  9. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Is Semi going to join him seeing as he wasn't selected either
     
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  10. yokahontas

    yokahontas Well-Known Member

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    Mal himself was happy to support his murdering rapist brother's bid for parole only a couple of years ago.

    Fair enough if you're going to ban Fifita for the threatening of junior league officials etc, but people are entitled to offer support to their friends or relatives who may be doing time. And until you apply common sense and ban any writing on strapping (you'd think Matt Lodge writing c$&@ on his in u/20s Origin a couple of years back would've been enough of a wake up call for the NRL), it's a bit heavy-handed to retrospectively say "you weren't allowed to write THAT". I mean, would Joe Public have had any idea what the initials on Fifi's strapping meant if it hadn't been blown up by the media?!
     
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  11. Terry Zarsoff

    Terry Zarsoff Well-Known Member

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    I think this was more to do with his associating with outlaw bikie types.
     
  12. TerryRandall

    TerryRandall Well-Known Member

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    I'm no fan, but what exactly has he been charged with to warrant non selection? Smacks of gross hypocrisy if you ask me. We are only selecting clean skins for Australia now? If so, what exactly constitutes a clean skin and who decides? Will he ever be considered in the future? On what basis will that decision be made? If JT gets pinged for drink driving will he be cut? Typical knee jerking from the idiots who supposedly run this game.
     
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  13. Nordburg

    Nordburg Well-Known Member

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    The difference between the others and Fifita is they have served a punishment.Fifita is still being investigated by the "Integrity Unit."Why it's taken this long is another story.Anyone that has any sympathy for Fifita after all his poor behaviour must have issues themselves
     
  14. yokahontas

    yokahontas Well-Known Member

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    I'm no fan of Fifita, don't get me wrong - but he was already investigated and punished for abusing and threatening junior league officials - if you're going to exclude him from national selection for that, fine. But then you need to look at the unsavoury past indiscretions of other guys who HAVE been selected.

    The consorting laws and the current Integrity Unit 'investigation' are a load of BS - if your mate or family member is in gaol, or you like to go out for Happy Meals with the local chapter of the Hells Angels, whose business is that but yours? Sure, the moment you decide to get involved in their criminal behaviour you should be investigated and punished accordingly - but until then, the cops, the NRL, and everyone else should mind their own business.
     
  15. Loaded dog

    Loaded dog Out on the full.

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    If players want to play in the NRL, then they must play by the NRL rules. If the NRL says that you must not mix with certain people, then you have a choice. Don't mix or don't play!
     
  16. TimmyQ

    TimmyQ Active Member

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    The issue isn't supporting a mate in jail - its using the NRL as the platform to show that support. He didn't need to plaster the idiot's name on his wrist. Should have stuck to the odd phone call and visit. The NRL is not a mouthpiece for idiots to show their support for their idiot mates.
     
  17. yokahontas

    yokahontas Well-Known Member

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    If the NRL wants to ban that type of thing on strapping - ban it. Other sports have, and I personally think they should. But until they do, it's going to smack of a witch hunt every time they retrospectively decide they don't like whatever cryptic initials someone has written on their strapping. Or do we go down the road of publishing a list of what every random assortment of letters on every player's strapping means each week so we can decide if it offends any special snowflakes? Maybe have a specialist team handsomely paid to pre-approve all writing on strapping before the fact? And tattoos as well, for that matter.

    Until it became a media beat-up, it was most likely intended as a supportive gesture that nobody else knew the meaning of. Yes, Fifi is an idiot and yes, a smarter person might've known it would make them a target for knee jerk kangaroo-court NRL 'justice'. But it's not banned, it wasn't at the time he did it, and there are players with track records of worse behaviour who do and will wear Australian jerseys.

    And the consorting laws are a load of balls.
     
  18. Woodsie

    Woodsie played strong, done good.

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    I remember when players used to call it an "honour and a priveledge" to be chosen to represent your country. Now blokes think it is a right.

    It should mean more than you are just a good football player.

    It is a sad state when blokes I know go for the Kiwi's because of the prize dickheads in the Aussie team.
     
  19. yokahontas

    yokahontas Well-Known Member

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    That's fair enough, but the consorting laws are a much wider issue than that, because they can be used against anyone at all - regardless of who you are, who your employer is etc.

    This is the kind of thing consorting / anti-association laws can lead to:

    http://www.news.com.au/national/que...m/news-story/40a4da9bcf9c575ae8a8910ee5685105

    While the example of eating Happy Meals with the Hells Angels I used earlier was tongue-in-cheek, it's not far from the truth, sadly.
     
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  20. Nordburg

    Nordburg Well-Known Member

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    Firstly,Meninga and co have drawn a line in the sand at this moment in time.He was not coach back then so he is setting a precedence from here forward.Secondly,Fifita is not in trouble with the NRL for consorting,that is a police matter.The issue that has caused his non selection is the arm band with the initials on them.He is supporting a convicted killer in a public arena.NRL,at this stage,don't have a problem with him visiting his mate in jail.How do you think the parents of the young bloke that was killed feel about a public display of support?
     
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