Jorge Taufua charged with spitting at a cop.

[manlyfan76]

It's not the worst crime. A worse crime would be a Bulldogs player doing exactly the same thing.

Or a bulldog player biting another players' ear.

On a serious note, he should be fined and do some community service.

Why do so many people dislike the police so much and glorify drug lords, murderers and thugs? Look at the underbelly series on tv where they are portrayed as good guys while the police are painted as the criminals.

The vast majority of police are there to help people.

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Maybe nowadays they are there to help but back in the day there was slot of bad and some very bad coppers
Anyway I have a specialist appointment not far from surfers court and was going to go along but my apt is on the 9th not 10th. Spewing.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

@DSM5 - is our Silvertails court reporter holidaying on the coast by any chance?

 

[Bearfax]

It's not the worst crime. A worse crime would be a Bulldogs player doing exactly the same thing.

Or a bulldog player biting another players' ear.

On a serious note, he should be fined and do some community service.

Why do so many people dislike the police so much and glorify drug lords, murderers and thugs? Look at the underbelly series on tv where they are portrayed as good guys while the police are painted as the criminals.

The vast majority of police are there to help people.

Having worked most of my working life in the criminal justice system. I thoroughly concur with your comments Swoop.

These TV Underbelly programmes are just glorified nonsense to entertain the masses. Most major crime is impulsive. poorly considered, grubby, opportunistic and often just plain dumb. I've never known a criminal to live and behave in the stylish manner of these programmes, and I've known close to ten thousand offenders in my time.

I love crime shows like Munk, Marple, Poirot, Sherlock Holmes, CSI etc because they are entertainment, not reality. Reality in these areas is sad, dangerous, dirty and fringe living, often struggling to make enough money to live a reasonable life. Many live a more comfortable life in gaol and for the majority of us that sort of life would be depressing.

 

[Ralphie]

It's not the worst crime. A worse crime would be a Bulldogs player doing exactly the same thing.

Or a bulldog player biting another players' ear.

On a serious note, he should be fined and do some community service.

Why do so many people dislike the police so much and glorify drug lords, murderers and thugs? Look at the underbelly series on tv where they are portrayed as good guys while the police are painted as the criminals.

The vast majority of police are there to help people.

Having worked most of my working life in the criminal justice system. I thoroughly concur with your comments Swoop.

These TV Underbelly programmes are just glorified nonsense to entertain the masses. Most major crime is impulsive. poorly considered, grubby, opportunistic and often just plain dumb. I've never known a criminal to live and behave in the stylish manner of these programmes, and I've known close to ten thousand offenders in my time.

I love crime shows like Munk, Marple, Poirot, Sherlock Holmes, CSI etc because they are entertainment, not reality. Reality in these areas is sad, dangerous, dirty and fringe living, often struggling to make enough money to live a reasonable life. Many live a more comfortable life in gaol and for the majority of us that sort of life would be depressing.

The main reason most people have no faith or respect in the Police is illustrated with the following personal experiences.

1. I was booked for doing 61km/hr in a 60km/hr zone that was a 100km/hr zone 100 metres behind me.

2. My home was broken into with many thousands of dollars of gear stolen. It was possible, even probable that there were finger prints to be had, but 2 weeks after phoning the Police I had a call from them to see if anyone had been in contact with me. They hadn't and the guy on the phone said there was no point in coming down now because the crime scene was contaminated.

So it would seem that doing 1km/hr over the speed limit was far more important to deal with than a robbery..........hmmmmmmm.

 

[swoop]

1. I was booked for doing 61km/hr in a 60km/hr zone that was a 100km/hr zone 100 metres behind me.

So it would seem that doing 1km/hr over the speed limit was far more important to deal with than a robbery..........hmmmmmmm.

I can't believe that, but I did say the vast majority of police are doing the right thing.

As for robberies I had a similar experience and waited ages, I asked why it took so long and they said thery're pretty much inudated with these calls. Most of those things are covered by insurance, not that it makes the situation any better.

 

[mozgrame]

We call Jorge "evap" up here. Evap is short for evaporative cooling. The idea is to get moisture into the air, coupled with wind velocity. When the moisture makes contact with the skin, the air speed provides an excellent and immediate cooling effect.

Jorge obviously felt the Qld climate was rather warm, and took into account the heat of the situation. Trying to cool down the officer as quickly and environmentally friendly as possible has back fired on him.

For Jorge to be charged for his selfless act of trying to increase the comfort of another person is the true crime. I could not imagine the distress he could have placed himself in if he had developed "cotton wool mouth" through lack of saliva, and could not answer the questions he was being asked.

Jorge is a giving person, and has an inherent love of his fellow man. There are not too many people in this world that would have handled the situation in such a selfless and caring way.

Release Jorge from this unwarranted, filthy stigma. The good Lord knows...we need many, many more like him if we are to survive in this fast paced world, where selfishness and greed are quickly becoming the norm.

 

[Rex]

The main reason most people have no faith or respect in the Police is illustrated with the following personal experiences.

1. I was booked for doing 61km/hr in a 60km/hr zone that was a 100km/hr zone 100 metres behind me.

2. My home was broken into with many thousands of dollars of gear stolen. It was possible, even probable that there were finger prints to be had, but 2 weeks after phoning the Police I had a call from them to see if anyone had been in contact with me. They hadn't and the guy on the phone said there was no point in coming down now because the crime scene was contaminated.

So it would seem that doing 1km/hr over the speed limit was far more important to deal with than a robbery..........hmmmmmmm.

Those two little incidents give you no faith or respect for the police? Get a grip. Take a step back, get over yourself, and look at the big picture.

Without our police force those two piddling little losses you suffered would be totally dwarfed into insignificance.

 

[mozgrame]

Or even with our police force, so it would seem.

 

[manlyfan76]

QLD police is a police service not a force. The cops up here don't like being a service they want to go back to being a force.

 

[mozgrame]

Qld police farce.

 

[MadMarcus]

1. I was booked for doing 61km/hr in a 60km/hr zone that was a 100km/hr zone 100 metres behind me.

Hoon. I hope they impounded your car.

 

[manlyfan76]

Taufua case was adjourned this morning to be heard another day.

 

[Ralphie]

The main reason most people have no faith or respect in the Police is illustrated with the following personal experiences.

1. I was booked for doing 61km/hr in a 60km/hr zone that was a 100km/hr zone 100 metres behind me.

2. My home was broken into with many thousands of dollars of gear stolen. It was possible, even probable that there were finger prints to be had, but 2 weeks after phoning the Police I had a call from them to see if anyone had been in contact with me. They hadn't and the guy on the phone said there was no point in coming down now because the crime scene was contaminated.

So it would seem that doing 1km/hr over the speed limit was far more important to deal with than a robbery..........hmmmmmmm.

Those two little incidents give you no faith or respect for the police? Get a grip. Take a step back, get over yourself, and look at the big picture.

Without our police force those two piddling little losses you suffered would be totally dwarfed into insignificance.

Wake up, ask around your circle of friends. I can't count the number of people that have recounted similar stories.

My jaundiced view of the Police is based on many, many, many such instances. In many respects its not their fault, they are given their priorities from above, but it doesn't change the fact that they are more interested in revenue raising than catching criminals.

 

[TokyoEagle]

Like most things in life, a few bad apples ruin it for the majority who are fairly decent.

 

[Bearfax]

It's not the worst crime. A worse crime would be a Bulldogs player doing exactly the same thing.

Or a bulldog player biting another players' ear.

On a serious note, he should be fined and do some community service.

Why do so many people dislike the police so much and glorify drug lords, murderers and thugs? Look at the underbelly series on tv where they are portrayed as good guys while the police are painted as the criminals.

The vast majority of police are there to help people.

Having worked most of my working life in the criminal justice system. I thoroughly concur with your comments Swoop.

These TV Underbelly programmes are just glorified nonsense to entertain the masses. Most major crime is impulsive. poorly considered, grubby, opportunistic and often just plain dumb. I've never known a criminal to live and behave in the stylish manner of these programmes, and I've known close to ten thousand offenders in my time.

I love crime shows like Munk, Marple, Poirot, Sherlock Holmes, CSI etc because they are entertainment, not reality. Reality in these areas is sad, dangerous, dirty and fringe living, often struggling to make enough money to live a reasonable life. Many live a more comfortable life in gaol and for the majority of us that sort of life would be depressing.
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The main reason most people have no faith or respect in the Police is illustrated with the following personal experiences.

1. I was booked for doing 61km/hr in a 60km/hr zone that was a 100km/hr zone 100 metres behind me.

2. My home was broken into with many thousands of dollars of gear stolen. It was possible, even probable that there were finger prints to be had, but 2 weeks after phoning the Police I had a call from them to see if anyone had been in contact with me. They hadn't and the guy on the phone said there was no point in coming down now because the crime scene was contaminated.

So it would seem that doing 1km/hr over the speed limit was far more important to deal with than a robbery..........hmmmmmmm.

I wasnt a cop. But as a parole officer I had a lot to do with them.

They are people just like you and there are good and bad ones as in every field. One thing I do notice though is that they are often seriously under staffed as are a lot of those sorts of public service jobs including DOCS, Juvenile Justice, Legal Aid etc.

Difficulty is that police are allocated job's to do based on the section they are in. They dont usually do each other's roles unless there's a serious staff problem. So a highway patrol officer is employed to do that work, while detectives do another role, and general duty officers are left with work from the station.

Often like in many public service roles, a priority list is established and regrettably that means that if there are more serious matters required to be addressed, that takes precedence. Its not perfect by any stretch. DOCS for example shelve most complaints unless they receive repeat complaints or the matter is deemed serious enough for immediate response. Otherwise they couldnt do their job.

That's unfortunately the reality of the situation. I should also point out that in most of those jobs the average length of time people stay in many of those positions is about 18 months to 2 years. Resignation levels are very high.

 

[Rex]

The main reason most people have no faith or respect in the Police is illustrated with the following personal experiences.

1. I was booked for doing 61km/hr in a 60km/hr zone that was a 100km/hr zone 100 metres behind me.

2. My home was broken into with many thousands of dollars of gear stolen. It was possible, even probable that there were finger prints to be had, but 2 weeks after phoning the Police I had a call from them to see if anyone had been in contact with me. They hadn't and the guy on the phone said there was no point in coming down now because the crime scene was contaminated.

So it would seem that doing 1km/hr over the speed limit was far more important to deal with than a robbery..........hmmmmmmm.

Those two little incidents give you no faith or respect for the police? Get a grip. Take a step back, get over yourself, and look at the big picture.

Without our police force those two piddling little losses you suffered would be totally dwarfed into insignificance.

Wake up, ask around your circle of friends. I can't count the number of people that have recounted similar stories.

My jaundiced view of the Police is based on many, many, many such instances. In many respects its not their fault, they are given their priorities from above, but it doesn't change the fact that they are more interested in revenue raising than catching criminals.

Don't assume my circle of friends share the same jaundiced and stereotypical victim-based views as your circle of friends.

Police are drawn from the general population so they share the same human imperfections as every one of us - like a tendency to abuse power, to make errors of judgement, and an inability to make limited resources stretch to do everything we'd like done. Glass houses and stone throwers.

If you were really booked for doing 61 in a 60 area you could learn the lesson that when you break the law you risk being caught. Or you could say you took your chances and are happy to bear the fine. Or you could fight it and take it to court (with a good chance of winning due to imperfections in measuring equipment). None requires a jaundiced view.

If the police didn't respond initially to the break-in, you could have followed up rather than just sitting on your behind waiting. Or you could have considered whether your attitude towards the police makes them less likely to want to help you. Or you could have looked at your own actions that increased the chance of a break-in. None requires a jaundiced view.

Jaundiced views are victim mentalities. They don't solve anything. An alternative is taking personal responsibility and to stop blaming others or blaming the world.

 

[Stevo]

Top post Rex

 

[Garts]

I refuse to believe the being booked for doing 61km in a 60km zone. If you show me the ticket I will happily eat my words. I don't doubt the break in storey though.

I was done doing 125km in a 100km zone on a long weekend (double demerits) and the cop was nice enough to only get me for 15km or under. Not all are arseholes, actually the majority are fine. I know quite a large number of them.

 

[Brookie]

back on topic, do we know when this is back before the courts?

 

[Ralphie]

The main reason most people have no faith or respect in the Police is illustrated with the following personal experiences.

1. I was booked for doing 61km/hr in a 60km/hr zone that was a 100km/hr zone 100 metres behind me.

2. My home was broken into with many thousands of dollars of gear stolen. It was possible, even probable that there were finger prints to be had, but 2 weeks after phoning the Police I had a call from them to see if anyone had been in contact with me. They hadn't and the guy on the phone said there was no point in coming down now because the crime scene was contaminated.

So it would seem that doing 1km/hr over the speed limit was far more important to deal with than a robbery..........hmmmmmmm.

Those two little incidents give you no faith or respect for the police? Get a grip. Take a step back, get over yourself, and look at the big picture.

Without our police force those two piddling little losses you suffered would be totally dwarfed into insignificance.

Wake up, ask around your circle of friends. I can't count the number of people that have recounted similar stories.

My jaundiced view of the Police is based on many, many, many such instances. In many respects its not their fault, they are given their priorities from above, but it doesn't change the fact that they are more interested in revenue raising than catching criminals.

Don't assume my circle of friends share the same jaundiced and stereotypical victim-based views as your circle of friends.

Police are drawn from the general population so they share the same human imperfections as every one of us - like a tendency to abuse power, to make errors of judgement, and an inability to make limited resources stretch to do everything we'd like done. Glass houses and stone throwers.

If you were really booked for doing 61 in a 60 area you could learn the lesson that when you break the law you risk being caught. Or you could say you took your chances and are happy to bear the fine. Or you could fight it and take it to court (with a good chance of winning due to imperfections in measuring equipment). None requires a jaundiced view.

If the police didn't respond initially to the break-in, you could have followed up rather than just sitting on your behind waiting. Or you could have considered whether your attitude towards the police makes them less likely to want to help you. Or you could have looked at your own actions that increased the chance of a break-in. None requires a jaundiced view.

Jaundiced views are victim mentalities. They don't solve anything. An alternative is taking personal responsibility and to stop blaming others or blaming the world.

Gee REX it's not like you to be presumptuous and make quantum leap assumptions.

1. Please explain to me where in my post I have blamed others or not accepted responsibility for anything that has happened to me. My inference was that doing 61 in a 60 zone was an extremely minor offence that was immediately nailed, whilst the real crime was treated with disinterest.
2. Don't jump to conclusions about what I have or have not done, but for the record I had made 2 follow up calls (a total of 3 calls) in the time before they got back to me.
3. You pass comment on my home security, yet you have not been anywhere near my home. To quote the Police, if they really want to get into your house, nothing will stop them.
4. I considered challenging the speeding fine, but the cost of a Solicitor was greater than the fine and if I went to court unrepresented I could be there waiting for longer than 1 day for my turn, also a cost greater than the fine.
5. I did not retain the fine, I threw it away in disgust, please tell me what sort of a loser keeps speeding fines for mementos.

Maybe next time you should think through what you are about to write before you pen something full of assumptions and personal prejudices.