Is there a coach as bad as Ricky

[BOZO]

Yep no worries

He coached the Sharks for another 2 years not reaching the finals but that is to be expected with zero money on no major sponsor for a lot of that time. Plus several off field dramas.

Then he Coached the Blues for 2 years. losing both series 2-1 although NSW lost game 3 in 2012 due to a dodgy refereeing decision.

Then he took over a club with probably the worst roster they've ever had. Then he cut half the club, signed some new ones and now they sit just out of the 8.

Now he's in charge of a club that has an even worse roster than the one the year before but the difference is this new club has a club captain that they consider a legend that would play reserve grade at most other NRL clubs, a superstar fullback that can't wait to leave the joint for a big pay day, 3-4 old forwards on their swan song and 2 stars in Injured. Edrick Lee who scored half their tries last year is out for the season and josh papali has been injured twice and out for Origin as well.

You are entitled to your view on how good Ricky is Stevo and all the players that he is throwing big money and cant attract them at the Raiders are entitled to theirs

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RICKY Stuart is under the pump and fighting to save his NRL coaching career at the Canberra Raiders.

After collecting the wooden spoon at Parramatta last year, he needed a solid top-eight finish with the Raiders in 2014 to restore his reputation.

Every now and then some NRL teams just don’t turn up, play soft, and get flogged by 50 points. It just happens.
The performance is normally so embarrassing and so humiliating that they bounce back the next week to reinstate some pride.

Not the Canberra Raiders, who have now conceded 108 points in the last two starts against the Warriors and Sea Eagles.

There are no excuses for such pathetic, almost shameful, performances back to back.

It’s easy to point the finger at Stuart. He is the head coach and has to accept full responsibility for the manner in which they turn up every weekend.

 

[Vyssini]

RICKY Stuart is under the pump and fighting to save his NRL coaching career at the Canberra Raiders. Every now and then some NRL teams just don’t turn up, play soft, and get flogged by 50 points. It just happens. The performance is normally so embarrassing and so humiliating that they bounce back the next week to reinstate some pride. Not the Canberra Raiders, who have now conceded 108 points in the last two starts against the Warriors and Sea Eagles.

We are that good we flog teams and don't even remember it...

 

[Stevo]

Yep no worries

He coached the Sharks for another 2 years not reaching the finals but that is to be expected with zero money on no major sponsor for a lot of that time. Plus several off field dramas.

Then he Coached the Blues for 2 years. losing both series 2-1 although NSW lost game 3 in 2012 due to a dodgy refereeing decision.

Then he took over a club with probably the worst roster they've ever had. Then he cut half the club, signed some new ones and now they sit just out of the 8.

Now he's in charge of a club that has an even worse roster than the one the year before but the difference is this new club has a club captain that they consider a legend that would play reserve grade at most other NRL clubs, a superstar fullback that can't wait to leave the joint for a big pay day, 3-4 old forwards on their swan song and 2 stars in Injured. Edrick Lee who scored half their tries last year is out for the season and josh papali has been injured twice and out for Origin as well.

You are entitled to your view on how good Ricky is Stevo and all the players that he is throwing big money and cant attract them at the Raiders are entitled to theirs

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RICKY Stuart is under the pump and fighting to save his NRL coaching career at the Canberra Raiders.

After collecting the wooden spoon at Parramatta last year, he needed a solid top-eight finish with the Raiders in 2014 to restore his reputation.

Every now and then some NRL teams just don’t turn up, play soft, and get flogged by 50 points. It just happens.
The performance is normally so embarrassing and so humiliating that they bounce back the next week to reinstate some pride.

Not the Canberra Raiders, who have now conceded 108 points in the last two starts against the Warriors and Sea Eagles.

There are no excuses for such pathetic, almost shameful, performances back to back.

It’s easy to point the finger at Stuart. He is the head coach and has to accept full responsibility for the manner in which they turn up every weekend.

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Haha are you serious? You are going to blame Stuart for not being able to attract big name players?

Who was the last big name player the raiders signed and what decade was it?

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I'll tell ya.

It was Clinton Schifcofske all the way back in 2001.

 

[BOZO]

Yep no worries

He coached the Sharks for another 2 years not reaching the finals but that is to be expected with zero money on no major sponsor for a lot of that time. Plus several off field dramas.

Then he Coached the Blues for 2 years. losing both series 2-1 although NSW lost game 3 in 2012 due to a dodgy refereeing decision.

Then he took over a club with probably the worst roster they've ever had. Then he cut half the club, signed some new ones and now they sit just out of the 8.

Now he's in charge of a club that has an even worse roster than the one the year before but the difference is this new club has a club captain that they consider a legend that would play reserve grade at most other NRL clubs, a superstar fullback that can't wait to leave the joint for a big pay day, 3-4 old forwards on their swan song and 2 stars in Injured. Edrick Lee who scored half their tries last year is out for the season and josh papali has been injured twice and out for Origin as well.

You are entitled to your view on how good Ricky is Stevo and all the players that he is throwing big money and cant attract them at the Raiders are entitled to theirs

---

RICKY Stuart is under the pump and fighting to save his NRL coaching career at the Canberra Raiders.

After collecting the wooden spoon at Parramatta last year, he needed a solid top-eight finish with the Raiders in 2014 to restore his reputation.

Every now and then some NRL teams just don’t turn up, play soft, and get flogged by 50 points. It just happens.
The performance is normally so embarrassing and so humiliating that they bounce back the next week to reinstate some pride.

Not the Canberra Raiders, who have now conceded 108 points in the last two starts against the Warriors and Sea Eagles.

There are no excuses for such pathetic, almost shameful, performances back to back.

It’s easy to point the finger at Stuart. He is the head coach and has to accept full responsibility for the manner in which they turn up every weekend.

---

Haha are you serious? You are going to blame Stuart for not being able to attract big name players?

Who was the last big name player the raiders signed and what decade was it?

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Who are we to blame for not being able to attract big name players at the Raiders Stevo , the club masseur ?

 

[Stevo]

In fact, 99% of the representative players that the Raiders have had have started their careers at Canberra and left for greener pastures or simply retired.

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Yep no worries

He coached the Sharks for another 2 years not reaching the finals but that is to be expected with zero money on no major sponsor for a lot of that time. Plus several off field dramas.

Then he Coached the Blues for 2 years. losing both series 2-1 although NSW lost game 3 in 2012 due to a dodgy refereeing decision.

Then he took over a club with probably the worst roster they've ever had. Then he cut half the club, signed some new ones and now they sit just out of the 8.

Now he's in charge of a club that has an even worse roster than the one the year before but the difference is this new club has a club captain that they consider a legend that would play reserve grade at most other NRL clubs, a superstar fullback that can't wait to leave the joint for a big pay day, 3-4 old forwards on their swan song and 2 stars in Injured. Edrick Lee who scored half their tries last year is out for the season and josh papali has been injured twice and out for Origin as well.

You are entitled to your view on how good Ricky is Stevo and all the players that he is throwing big money and cant attract them at the Raiders are entitled to theirs

---

RICKY Stuart is under the pump and fighting to save his NRL coaching career at the Canberra Raiders.

After collecting the wooden spoon at Parramatta last year, he needed a solid top-eight finish with the Raiders in 2014 to restore his reputation.

Every now and then some NRL teams just don’t turn up, play soft, and get flogged by 50 points. It just happens.
The performance is normally so embarrassing and so humiliating that they bounce back the next week to reinstate some pride.

Not the Canberra Raiders, who have now conceded 108 points in the last two starts against the Warriors and Sea Eagles.

There are no excuses for such pathetic, almost shameful, performances back to back.

It’s easy to point the finger at Stuart. He is the head coach and has to accept full responsibility for the manner in which they turn up every weekend.

---

Haha are you serious? You are going to blame Stuart for not being able to attract big name players?

Who was the last big name player the raiders signed and what decade was it?

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Who are we to blame for not being able to attract big name players at the Raiders Stevo , the club masseur ?

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In you're own words it's Ricky Stuart apparently but in reality (where the rest of us live) they have never been able to attract players. Probably due to the climate. Maybe you could blame god?

 

[BOZO]

Yep no worries

He coached the Sharks for another 2 years not reaching the finals but that is to be expected with zero money on no major sponsor for a lot of that time. Plus several off field dramas.

Then he Coached the Blues for 2 years. losing both series 2-1 although NSW lost game 3 in 2012 due to a dodgy refereeing decision.

Then he took over a club with probably the worst roster they've ever had. Then he cut half the club, signed some new ones and now they sit just out of the 8.

Now he's in charge of a club that has an even worse roster than the one the year before but the difference is this new club has a club captain that they consider a legend that would play reserve grade at most other NRL clubs, a superstar fullback that can't wait to leave the joint for a big pay day, 3-4 old forwards on their swan song and 2 stars in Injured. Edrick Lee who scored half their tries last year is out for the season and josh papali has been injured twice and out for Origin as well.

You are entitled to your view on how good Ricky is Stevo and all the players that he is throwing big money and cant attract them at the Raiders are entitled to theirs

---

RICKY Stuart is under the pump and fighting to save his NRL coaching career at the Canberra Raiders.

After collecting the wooden spoon at Parramatta last year, he needed a solid top-eight finish with the Raiders in 2014 to restore his reputation.

Every now and then some NRL teams just don’t turn up, play soft, and get flogged by 50 points. It just happens.
The performance is normally so embarrassing and so humiliating that they bounce back the next week to reinstate some pride.

Not the Canberra Raiders, who have now conceded 108 points in the last two starts against the Warriors and Sea Eagles.

There are no excuses for such pathetic, almost shameful, performances back to back.

It’s easy to point the finger at Stuart. He is the head coach and has to accept full responsibility for the manner in which they turn up every weekend.

---

Haha are you serious? You are going to blame Stuart for not being able to attract big name players?

Who was the last big name player the raiders signed and what decade was it?

---

Who are we to blame for not being able to attract big name players at the Raiders Stevo , the club masseur ?

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2011 The Raiders signed Rep players Matt Orford and Brett White are two that I can think of Stevo

 

[Stevo]

haha

Matt Orford was ****. He was looking for a swan song after a failed english stint. No other club would touch him and he was that past it the fans keyed his car the day the sea eagles flogged them.

Brett White played all of his rep career at Melbourne and then when he was on the decline they brushed him and he went to Canberra and never played rep footy again.

Neither player was what i would call a big name or Marquee player.

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Keep em coming this is enjoyable

 

[BOZO]

In fact, 99% of the representative players that the Raiders have had have started their careers at Canberra and left for greener pastures or simply retired.

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Yep no worries

He coached the Sharks for another 2 years not reaching the finals but that is to be expected with zero money on no major sponsor for a lot of that time. Plus several off field dramas.

Then he Coached the Blues for 2 years. losing both series 2-1 although NSW lost game 3 in 2012 due to a dodgy refereeing decision.

Then he took over a club with probably the worst roster they've ever had. Then he cut half the club, signed some new ones and now they sit just out of the 8.

Now he's in charge of a club that has an even worse roster than the one the year before but the difference is this new club has a club captain that they consider a legend that would play reserve grade at most other NRL clubs, a superstar fullback that can't wait to leave the joint for a big pay day, 3-4 old forwards on their swan song and 2 stars in Injured. Edrick Lee who scored half their tries last year is out for the season and josh papali has been injured twice and out for Origin as well.

You are entitled to your view on how good Ricky is Stevo and all the players that he is throwing big money and cant attract them at the Raiders are entitled to theirs

---

RICKY Stuart is under the pump and fighting to save his NRL coaching career at the Canberra Raiders.

After collecting the wooden spoon at Parramatta last year, he needed a solid top-eight finish with the Raiders in 2014 to restore his reputation.

Every now and then some NRL teams just don’t turn up, play soft, and get flogged by 50 points. It just happens.
The performance is normally so embarrassing and so humiliating that they bounce back the next week to reinstate some pride.

Not the Canberra Raiders, who have now conceded 108 points in the last two starts against the Warriors and Sea Eagles.

There are no excuses for such pathetic, almost shameful, performances back to back.

It’s easy to point the finger at Stuart. He is the head coach and has to accept full responsibility for the manner in which they turn up every weekend.

---

Haha are you serious? You are going to blame Stuart for not being able to attract big name players?

Who was the last big name player the raiders signed and what decade was it?

---

Who are we to blame for not being able to attract big name players at the Raiders Stevo , the club masseur ?

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In you're own words it's Ricky Stuart apparently but in reality (where the rest of us live) they have never been able to attract players. Probably due to the climate. Maybe you could blame god?

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The climate didn't stop the likes of Mal Meninga going over there for the big dollars Stevo

 

[Stevo]

And which ARL/NRL club did big Mal play for before Canberra?

 

[BOZO]

haha

Matt Orford was .... He was looking for a swan song after a failed english stint. No other club would touch him and he was that past it the fans keyed his car the day the sea eagles flogged them.

Brett White played all of his rep career at Melbourne and then when he was on the decline they brushed him and he went to Canberra and never played rep footy again.

Neither player was what i would call a big name or Marquee player.

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Keep em coming this is enjoyable

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Some how I don't think the Canberra fans are enjoying Ricky's coaching as much as you

 

[Stevo]

And even if you count the QRL and the English RL of the 80's as professional (which they weren't) do you really have to go back that far to find a big name player they recruited? You just disproved your own argument.

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haha

Matt Orford was .... He was looking for a swan song after a failed english stint. No other club would touch him and he was that past it the fans keyed his car the day the sea eagles flogged them.

Brett White played all of his rep career at Melbourne and then when he was on the decline they brushed him and he went to Canberra and never played rep footy again.

Neither player was what i would call a big name or Marquee player.

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Keep em coming this is enjoyable

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Some how I don't think the Canberra fans are enjoying Ricky's coaching as much as you

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They will if he see's out his contract

 

[mozgrame]

Dane Tilse was a big name in the media when he signed with the Raiders.

 

[BOZO]

And which ARL/NRL club did big Mal play for before Canberra?

The Great Mal Meninga had represented his state in 1979 and his country in 1982 and in 1997 was one of the most sought out players in the ARL but he left his sunshine state to go to where no other player wants to go now that Ricky is coaching

 

[Stevo]

If you have to go all the way back to 1986 for a Marquee player then youve proven my point. Blaming Ricky Stuart for not being able to attract players also proves my point that you, like everyone else are bandwagon Ricky bashers.

 

[HoldenV8]

Apart from a 10 year period between about 1983/84 and 1994, Canberra's biggest problem has been attracting good players to the club.

In that time they added names such as Sam Backo, Dean Lance, Mal Meninga, Gary Belcher, Steve Walters, John Ferguson, Brent Todd, Peter Jackson, Kevin Walters, Laurie Daley, Bradley Clyde, Ricky Stuart, Brett Mullins, Jason Croker, John Lomax, Quentin Pongia, Ruben Wiki, Noa Nadruku, Ken Nagas and David Furner. And to the best of my knowledge, only Clyde, Daley*, Croker and Furner were Canberra juniors (*Daley might have been, but not sure).

It also helped that from 1986 until 1988 their coach was also the Australian coach.

Since then though their biggest signing was probably Clinton Schifcofske. Is it any wonder they haven't looked like winning anything since 1994? Stuart has only been back there this year as coach so for that I can't lay the blame on him. But, his record at his two previous clubs speaks volumes for his coaching.

 

[BOZO]

If you have to go all the way back to 1986 for a Marquee player then youve proven my point. Blaming Ricky Stuart for not being able to attract players also proves my point that you, like everyone else are bandwagon Ricky bashers.

Here are the Facts Stevo why everyone else accept you are on the bandwagon
Following the hapless New Zealand Warriors 54-12 thrashing of the once-mighty Canberra Raiders on Saturday afternoon, Ricky Stuart’s recent coaching record stands at 13 wins from his last 60 NRL games.

Just when you thought this once-proud club couldn’t possibly put together two back-to-back dreadful, spiritless performances, they were made to look like a bunch of schoolboys playing against men in Auckland.

Here is a fact about Ricky Stuart – the best thing he has done since finishing his distinguished rugby league playing career is signing John Fordham as his business manager.

Fordham is a genius for his role in persuading poorly-performing NRL clubs to sign this impostor of an NRL coach to long-term deals.

When Ricky left the Roosters to join Cronulla, he was paid out of his contract. Similarly, he is still being paid by the Eels while ruining the Green Machine.

Ricky inherited a great Roosters team from Graham Murray and was given a walk up start to a premiership with Brad Fittler, Craig Wing, Brett Finch, Luke Ricketson and Adrian Morley on his roster. Slowly, as the seasons wore on and he lost the trust and respect of his players, his tenure became untenable.

Roosters players towards the end if his career openly criticised Sticky in public in a clear sign they did not respect him.

In his three years at Cronulla, Ricky managed just 33 wins.

We all remember what he did at the Eels – sacking half of the players mid season before walking out in the club at the end of the year. In 24 games at the Eels Ricky only had five wins. Yes, five. That’s 21 per cent.

And yet the miracle worker that is John Fordham managed to get his client a lucrative three-year deal at Canberra.

Results don’t lie. It is only a matter of time before the Canberra board see beyond Fordham’s magic and sack his client.

The earlier this is done by Canberra, the better.

 

[HoldenV8]

@BOZO, as much as I 100% agree with you about Stuart, Canberra will still struggle to attract good players even without him as coach. And the facts are that in the past few years they have lost (or sacked) some very good players - Carney, Dugan, Ferguson and Monaghan to name a few, and they are going to lose their best current player (Milford) at the end of the year.

Unless they go down the Souffs or Rorters path and spend big on big name players, don't expect the Raiders to contend for a premiership in the next 5-10 years at least.

 

[Stevo]

If you have to go all the way back to 1986 for a Marquee player then youve proven my point. Blaming Ricky Stuart for not being able to attract players also proves my point that you, like everyone else are bandwagon Ricky bashers.

Here are the Facts Stevo why everyone else accept you are on the bandwagon
Following the hapless New Zealand Warriors 54-12 thrashing of the once-mighty Canberra Raiders on Saturday afternoon, Ricky Stuart’s recent coaching record stands at 13 wins from his last 60 NRL games.

Just when you thought this once-proud club couldn’t possibly put together two back-to-back dreadful, spiritless performances, they were made to look like a bunch of schoolboys playing against men in Auckland.

Here is a fact about Ricky Stuart – the best thing he has done since finishing his distinguished rugby league playing career is signing John Fordham as his business manager.

Fordham is a genius for his role in persuading poorly-performing NRL clubs to sign this impostor of an NRL coach to long-term deals.

When Ricky left the Roosters to join Cronulla, he was paid out of his contract. Similarly, he is still being paid by the Eels while ruining the Green Machine.

Ricky inherited a great Roosters team from Graham Murray and was given a walk up start to a premiership with Brad Fittler, Craig Wing, Brett Finch, Luke Ricketson and Adrian Morley on his roster. Slowly, as the seasons wore on and he lost the trust and respect of his players, his tenure became untenable.

Roosters players towards the end if his career openly criticised Sticky in public in a clear sign they did not respect him.

In his three years at Cronulla, Ricky managed just 33 wins.

We all remember what he did at the Eels – sacking half of the players mid season before walking out in the club at the end of the year. In 24 games at the Eels Ricky only had five wins. Yes, five. That’s 21 per cent.

And yet the miracle worker that is John Fordham managed to get his client a lucrative three-year deal at Canberra.

Results don’t lie. It is only a matter of time before the Canberra board see beyond Fordham’s magic and sack his client.

The earlier this is done by Canberra, the better.

So you're bagging him because he won a GF with a great roster given to him by another coach and because he hasn't been able to get the 3 of the poorest rosters in modern day RL to fire?

How is Toovey any different? And how do you think Tooves would have gone at Parra last year and Canberra his year?

 

[nodd]

If you have to go all the way back to 1986 for a Marquee player then youve proven my point. Blaming Ricky Stuart for not being able to attract players also proves my point that you, like everyone else are bandwagon Ricky bashers.

Here are the Facts Stevo why everyone else accept you are on the bandwagon
Following the hapless New Zealand Warriors 54-12 thrashing of the once-mighty Canberra Raiders on Saturday afternoon, Ricky Stuart’s recent coaching record stands at 13 wins from his last 60 NRL games.

Just when you thought this once-proud club couldn’t possibly put together two back-to-back dreadful, spiritless performances, they were made to look like a bunch of schoolboys playing against men in Auckland.

Here is a fact about Ricky Stuart – the best thing he has done since finishing his distinguished rugby league playing career is signing John Fordham as his business manager.

Fordham is a genius for his role in persuading poorly-performing NRL clubs to sign this impostor of an NRL coach to long-term deals.

When Ricky left the Roosters to join Cronulla, he was paid out of his contract. Similarly, he is still being paid by the Eels while ruining the Green Machine.

Ricky inherited a great Roosters team from Graham Murray and was given a walk up start to a premiership with Brad Fittler, Craig Wing, Brett Finch, Luke Ricketson and Adrian Morley on his roster. Slowly, as the seasons wore on and he lost the trust and respect of his players, his tenure became untenable.

Roosters players towards the end if his career openly criticised Sticky in public in a clear sign they did not respect him.

In his three years at Cronulla, Ricky managed just 33 wins.

We all remember what he did at the Eels – sacking half of the players mid season before walking out in the club at the end of the year. In 24 games at the Eels Ricky only had five wins. Yes, five. That’s 21 per cent.

And yet the miracle worker that is John Fordham managed to get his client a lucrative three-year deal at Canberra.

Results don’t lie. It is only a matter of time before the Canberra board see beyond Fordham’s magic and sack his client.

The earlier this is done by Canberra, the better.

So you're bagging him because he won a GF with a great roster given to him by another coach and because he hasn't been able to get the 3 of the poorest rosters in modern day RL to fire?

How is Toovey any different? And how do you think Tooves would have gone at Parra last year and Canberra his year?

Better than Stuart.

 

[Stevo]

Great input