Just wondering, guess u can call it pre season pondering, in recent years how many of the premiers truly deserved or earned their grand finals? Like take for example the last Grand final "won" by the Easts, they played hard but we all saw the refereeing blunders in that game, not to mention their miraculous retaining if all bar one player from the GF team, so that needs no explaining. Or the 2010 St George-Illawarra win off a season tailor made for them. Forget the storm cheats of 07 and 09, but they played hard and earned it in 2011. Now as for us, 2008 needs no explanation. 2011, Warriors played hard and we had to give it our best despite stiff resistance from not just the Warriors but the media and NRL. Anyway of the other grand finals in recent years (say 20 years) were they all deserved?