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If Lyon doesnt come to Manly

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Berkeley_Eagle, Mar 29, 2006.

  1. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    This is the list of centres off contract
    Willie Tonga
    Mark Gasnier
    Matt Cooper
    Nigel Vagana
    Matt Gidley
    Josh Hannay
    Pau; Bowman
    Ben smith
    Clinton Toopi
    Ryan Cross
    any of these players that would go well in manly colours
     
  2. Nutzcraw

    Nutzcraw Active Member

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    My pick would be Ben Smith...

    Gaz would be nice.. but can't see it happening!
     
  3. Fro

    Fro Well-Known Member

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    Gidley and Bowman are getting on a bit, still handy players though
     
  4. Crushercleal

    Crushercleal Active Member

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    Gaz will never come. Neither will Cooper, Tonga, Vagana, Gidley, Bowman or Cross. Smith, Toopi or Hannay would be our best bets. Country boys, QLD boys, and Kiwis all have a history of fitting in well in the Peninsula.
     
  5. Crushercleal

    Crushercleal Active Member

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    Either way that is a phenominal list of centres coming off contract. I thought Cooper had already re-signed?
     
  6. Garts

    Garts Well-Known Member

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    Cooper has re-signed!!! happened 2 or so weeks back
     
  7. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Willie Tonga gets the ball to Utai a fair bit.
     
  8. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    If we don't get Lyon, then I say Crusher is a failure at Manly...AT MANLY...because he uncovered a fountain of youth talent superstars at Parramatta.

    Maybe it's just Manly's laid back attitude.
     
  9. fLIP

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    Dont parra have a vastly better juniors structure?
     
  10. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Is that an excuse though? They should get off their laid back arses, and proactively seek best practices from current successful clubs.
     
  11. fLIP

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    Im of the opinion that the club saw the privatisation as a means to get money; and that money would solve all problems.
     
  12. Garts

    Garts Well-Known Member

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    IMO seeing juniors progress through to 1st grade takes time, our junior sides have improved in Crushers tenure. Is that a direct result of him? I honestly dont know.

    Are there any superstars in these teams? I think it will take a couple more seasons to find out. Lets hope so.

    We also need to remember Parra pay more for their Juniors than we do, we just cant afford it. Its not a level playing field.

    I just hope Crusher sticks around for a little longer, I want him to have more time with us. He was at Parra for 10 years from memory and we did not see many stars come through Parras grades in the 1st few years he was there.
     
  13. Canteen Worker

    Canteen Worker Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Parra have a massively structured junior development programme. I work with one of their development officers - they have heaps around the place. They have more juniors than any other area bar Penrith and find it easier to intergrate country kids into their programme.

    It is worth noting that Parra at present are the result of about a ten year programme of junior development, big player recruitment and picking up the odd player here and there unwanted at their previous club. You don't find Jamie Lyons and Tim Smiths every week and they were at Parra for about five years before they were ready for NRL.

    Much of Crusher's work is at Jersey Flegg level at present and won't see first grade for a few more years yet at earliest. We must make sure that the coaching/development and pastoral care/culture creation of these kids is top class.
     
  14. Fluffy

    Fluffy Well-Known Member

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    i would think that Ben smith and jamie lyon both cant fit into parras team

    so he would be on the market.

    any of those listed are better than matai - at least there are a few options
     
  15. Canteen Worker

    Canteen Worker Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    And the club isn't?. What knowledge do you have of areas in which we are not doing that?
     
  16. Blunty

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    Smith, Creagh and Fielden would be handy.
     
  17. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    And the club isn't?. What knowledge do you have of areas in which we are not doing that?
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    I can't see Patrick Wilson on the phone to Denis Fitzgerald Canteen. Also - why don't you stop supporting mediacrity. We have a worse junior system than other teams full stop mate. In some posts about Jason King, you are negative toward people accepting his performances, yet in other areas that we clearly lag behind the rest of the comp, you celebrate our position. :naughty:
     

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