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I think Des Hasler has won his last Premiership.

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by bob dylan, Oct 9, 2011.

  1. bob dylan

    bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Always saying he is not a career coach and now having a contact until he is 55, I would presume the contract he is about to sign will be his last.

    The success at Manly took a while to come and I think the Dogs are in as bad shape as we were when Des took over. Some differences are

    1. We had a club legend in Steve Menzies in the ranks, the Dogs have nothing Pritchard, Ennis, Tolman and Barber just dont cut it.

    2. We recruited a club legend in Ben Kennedy, good luck finding one of those.

    3. Then Jamie Lyon finally come to the club he had wanted to play with for years, and another club legend was born. Good luck finding someone who wants to play with the Dogs with Jamies ability.

    I would say that of the Dogs 2011 starting 13 not a single player would make the best 13 Manly could field during 2011. Maybe Pritchard, Idris and Barber might make our bench. Ryan and Ennis maybe.

    Des will be lucky to get in the finals at the Dogs during his four years. Its just not enough time.

    I wish him well but success will be hard to get at that club with their roster.
     
  2. Cameron

    Cameron Cambo Premium Member

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    Nah mate they are rich as rich.
     
  3. Moondog

    Moondog Grey-beard loon Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Hope he's a dismal failure at the Dogs, they deserve it.
     
  4. Pablo

    Pablo Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    For the first time he'll be coaching players that see him as just a coach, not a god. Will they go that extra mile for him? Doubt it.
     
  5. mr seagles

    mr seagles New Member

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    HE WILL TAKE PLAYERS WITH HIM....AND CRUSHER....
     
  6. bob dylan

    bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Dont get me wrong I wish him well, I just cant see him winning a comp with 4 years. 6 to 8 years maybe.

    What players will he take, even if they could got Watmough, Foran, Wolfman, Stewarts x2 and Lyon I cant see that being enough. These guys will be all 2 years older and with the exception of Foran their best will be well behind them.

    They may go for the money and cash in and good on them if they do, but Manly would not be expecting to have Lyon beyond 2012, Watmough and the Stewarts would all have a 2013-14 used by date on them.

    This is our time of change, with or without Des.

    We need to secure Buhrer, DCE, Foran, Lussick, Ballin, TRex, Riccardi, Whare, Mauro and Robinson. These guys will ensure success no matter who the coach is.
     
  7. Moondog

    Moondog Grey-beard loon Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    It seems the club is in a state of transition. Change has been forced upon us but in the end something positive may come out of this. This could have been catastrophic if it had happened before the GF. At least we have the off season to prepare for next year. From all reports this was going to happen at some stage, neither side being willing to make concessions. If these changes finally give us some stability it will have been worth it.
     
  8. Pittwater Legend

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    I don't agree with you.

    If Des is passionate in coaching the Dogs I think they will make the finals each season. His work ethic, understanding of the game and rapport with playing staff is just too good for him not to be even slightly successful.
     
  9. bob dylan

    bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I do not care how good a coach is. If they don't have the players they won't be any good.

    At this stage the dogs have in my opinion the worst roster in the nrl for 2012 and will compete with eels sharks and raiders fir the spoon.
     
  10. manlyfan76

    manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Idris has left for Titans and if Hodgkinson is still there it would be an interesting 1st conversation, " Sorry I left your team. " "Sorry I didnt want you."
     
  11. Moondog

    Moondog Grey-beard loon Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Des won't be a respected ex club player when he joins the Dogs, he'll be a blow in. He has no history with the Dogs, neither do most of the support staff. They may be in for culture shock.
     
  12. niccipops

    niccipops un echidna spillo mia bevanda Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Hey Bob, what about 2012 with the Sea Eagles. Have I missed something? Is Des going right now?
     
  13. bob dylan

    bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    No Manly will win the comp in 2012, I am very confident, whether that is with Des, Tooves or Warren Ryan as the coach, our roster is superior to the opposition.

    As time rolls on though I get the feeling Des may not be at the helm by the end of the season. I hope he is and that will be premiership number 3.
     
  14. Moondog

    Moondog Grey-beard loon Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    AAAAARRRRGGGHHHHH, Bob please never mention Warren Ryan and the Manly coaching job in the same post again !!!!!!!
     
  15. lsz

    lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Moondog you are joking if you do not think he has an aura around him where ever he goes even at the bulldogs
     
  16. bob dylan

    bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Sorry Moondog, I used him as a "worst case scenario".

    He is a deadset goose.

    I had the misfortune to sit near him on the plane after Manly beat the Bronco's.
     
  17. Moondog

    Moondog Grey-beard loon Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I don't doubt that Isz. Just feel his aura will be severely diminished at the Bulldogs. His light will not shine as brightly when he leaves God's country.
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    Wow, that's bad luck Bob. Sort of like a twilight zone incident. Hope it was'nt a long trip.
     
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    Don't underestimate Des though; its fair to say he has learnt a stack about building teams and getting them to their peak. Him starting at the bulldogs in 2012/2013 will be a different Des to the novice coach whom started at Manly way back when.....
     
  19. Moondog

    Moondog Grey-beard loon Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Tower of Babel at the Bulldogs I fear.
     
  20. eagles2win

    eagles2win Well-Known Member

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    Bob I normally agree with you but Tolman and Graham as starting props leave ours for dead in terms of minutes played and workrate
     

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