1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

I Support The Penns & Kelly

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Ralphie, Mar 9, 2015.

  1. Ralphie

    Ralphie Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    3,648
    489
    Bredbo
    Ratings:
    +2,093 / 231
    Let me preface this by saying I've had enough of this and intend this to me my last post this season as I go off on a break for a season of NRL.

    I have been dumbfounded by those criticising Kelly and the Penns. I can only assume you have an agenda when one considers the facts. The Penns effectively had no say in the management of the club whilst the Quantum faction with the football club voted as a bloc. The facts are that had the Penns had the control the following series of events would not have happened and we would be in a different place now to what we are.
    Had the Penns had control:
    1. Des Hasler would not have left the club.
    2. Gifty would have been re-signed.
    3. Watmough would not have left.
    4. DCE would have been allowed to walk just like Hodkinson was allowed to walk.
    5. Foran would have been re-signed.

    We would have brought through another developing half and they would have done a great job. As it stands now the damage was done when they let Hasler go. Had they not dumped Gift we would be good today. My only criticism of Tooves is that he didn't fight hard enough for Gift. He was instructed by the Board to let Gifty go. Most of us would do what our Directors instruct us to do, but I bet Hasler would have fought tooth and Nail and he would have been retained.

    Penn has had control for what 4 months???? Since then he has brought in a well respect CEO in Kelly, added resources to the football operations and progressed the development of Brookie far more than I imagined. Make no bones about it, Kelly is a great CEO, probably the best in the League. He and Penn have been trying to pick up the pieces, but the truth is that DCE was always going to the highest bidder and Foran was lost due to the departure of Gift and Watmough. There was little they could have done that they didn't do. So to those that are carrying on about the Penns and Kelly, wake up to yourselves and look at the facts.

    See you in season 2016 when hopefully we only have players here that want to be here.
     
    • Like Like x 6
  2. ManlyArmy

    ManlyArmy Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    1,269
    455
    Ratings:
    +939 / 23
    I keep reading that Foran has left, but can't find the facts.
     
  3. jbb/james

    jbb/james Well-Known Member

    1,705
    491
    Ratings:
    +885 / 21
    Good post ralphie. I pretty much agree with all of that.
     
  4. Mavin

    Mavin Well-Known Member

    1,961
    790
    Ratings:
    +929 / 43
    I don't support them I support Manly frankly I couldn't give a **** who owns the club I just want us 2 have a stronger roster than we have today.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  5. The Wheel

    The Wheel Well-Known Member

    10,890
    805
    Ratings:
    +1,766 / 72
    I am with Raplhie top post!
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. joeboy

    joeboy Well-Known Member

    706
    282
    Ratings:
    +419 / 16
    Nothing has really happened since they took over that warrants them getting my support yet.

    We still have leaks out of the club, we have an abrasive CEO and all reports that they players haven't really taken too. We have lost one, maybe both halves. Kaspersky sponsorship isn't sorted beyond this year. Tooves doesn't seem to be getting the support he deserves and needs and we don't look like the confident, happy and United playing group and club you need to be to achieve success.

    I'm prepared to give them time, as it would appear the wounds were there before they took over. But let's face it, there has been not much good news coming out of manly since they took over and good leadership would not let this happen. They need to give us some faith to believe in them, I'm not talking about rash recruitment decisions, I'm talking about a clear and concise vision for the direction of our club, now that it looks like the original plan of keeping cherry and foz hasn't worked out.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  7. Mark from Brisbane

    Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

    16,338
    5,349
    Brisbane
    Ratings:
    +12,746 / 258
    Good post @Ralphie and really sorry to hear you are leaving ST.

    I agree with most you posted here, except for the part regarding Ha$ler. I had heaps of inside knowledge back in those days and whilst Penn may have wanted him, he also agreed and acknowledged that De$ was a control freak with way too much power, I don't believe he'd still be here even with total control by the Penns.

    Hope you decide to return but if not, enjoy the holiday.
     
  8. mjb136

    mjb136 MWSE fanatic Premium Member

    1,369
    701
    sydney
    Ratings:
    +1,462 / 32
    I imagine we are all feeling how Penrith fans felt 4 years ago when they started culling club legends, Gould was making some tough calls, and made everyone drink Oak milk.

    Given time, I believe this changing of the guard will make us stronger. Let's get the back office right, a refreshed team, and we can build a new decade of dominance.

    I'm disappointed with some players leaving etc, but excited for what the future holds for this great club.

    As an aside, I have been taking a mental note on every prick at work who has chimed in with their two cents worth on manly this year so far. All these fly by the nighters with sudden superiority complexes is starting to Piss me off. They will get theirs....:devil:
     
    • Like Like x 1
  9. mozgrame

    mozgrame Well-Known Member

    7,009
    3,013
    Ratings:
    +4,571 / 45
    I support underpinning!
     
    • Like Like x 1
  10. WESTIE

    WESTIE Well-Known Member

    562
    137
    Ratings:
    +332 / 9
    The " Talking Bulldogs " radio show on 2SM have just mentioned there is a apparently a meeting of the Manly board in the next couple of days....is this a normal scheduled one or are they throwing fuel on the fire ???
     
  11. JenEagle

    JenEagle Well-Known Member

    1,278
    545
    Ratings:
    +1,633 / 45
    If Foran leaves which seems to be almost certain though he has a bit to answer for.

    With DCE going to the highest bidder we could have bid more for him if we knew what Foran was doing. If Foran doesn't believe the club is right for him then why string it out 6 months so that we lose the chance of retaining DCE.

    I am not suggesting what DCE did was right/ethical/loyal etc however if we knew what Foran was doing a few months ago then we could have at least made other plans.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  12. joeboy

    joeboy Well-Known Member

    706
    282
    Ratings:
    +419 / 16
    Having them both of at the same time was always fraught with danger. They should've offered them both an extension and upgrade years ago and given it to the first one who accepted. Would've got them off contract in different years and been able to focus on one at a time.

    I love and will always love the club, but We've stuffed up in so many ways recently.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. Mark from Brisbane

    Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

    16,338
    5,349
    Brisbane
    Ratings:
    +12,746 / 258
    Normal board meeting I think you'll find. I was talking to Vidmar in January and he said they have them monthly about the middle of the month.
     
  14. Andrew..

    Andrew.. Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    2,372
    670
    Alstonville
    Ratings:
    +1,904 / 27
    Maybe that's why they get all emotional .
     
  15. mike walker

    mike walker Well-Known Member

    324
    297
    Ratings:
    +556 / 2
    G'day all,So what you're basically saying is that the Qantum side were the bad guys who had no interest in the well being or best interest of the club at heart and that the Penn side is the good guys who can do no wrong.I 've always been told that there are two sides to an argument.I don't have any real idea as to the machinations of our boardroom squabbles other than what I've read on here but to suggest that one side is totally to blame for our current imbroglio defies credibility to me.
    As an interesting aside didn't Kaspersky offer to buy out the Penn shareholding?Is it also true that Kaspersky will no longer be involved as a major sponsor at the conclusion of the current deal?If so lets hope that our new C.E.O. and board are as great as you say and can arrange an even better sponsorship regime.
    cheers mike
     
    • Like Like x 2
  16. Mark from Brisbane

    Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

    16,338
    5,349
    Brisbane
    Ratings:
    +12,746 / 258
    Ha good one !!

    Let's face it Scott Penn & Joe Kelly now run the club, these meetings are just " procedural" , although I imagine they would all be venting their thoughts in a private way.
     
  17. Mark from Brisbane

    Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

    16,338
    5,349
    Brisbane
    Ratings:
    +12,746 / 258
    Mike always two sides, except for those on here with Rose coloured glasses.

    BUT, as I have said before , the Penns won the war, so all hail the Penn's and lets go kick some butt!
     
  18. niccipops

    niccipops un echidna spillo mia bevanda Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    5,436
    2,922
    Ratings:
    +5,521 / 50
    Since the Penns took over our players have used pens elsewhere.
    Not blaming our owners. The damage had been done way before the takeover. I just wanted to say Penns and pens in the same sentence.:p
     
    • Like Like x 5
  19. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

    23,047
    447
    Ratings:
    +466 / 6
    No, we just all know that Quantum were broke.
     
  20. the mauler

    the mauler Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    2,765
    1,139
    Ratings:
    +1,653 / 25
    **** DCE.!!!
     
    • Like Like x 1

Share This Page