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Hollow victory

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Matabele, Jun 11, 2008.

  1. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    I am an avid Queensland supporter but I have to say that what really pisses me off about Origin (and the NRL) is the inordinate amount of influence the referee has on the game.

    In game 1 there are few penalties and slow play the balls and NSW grind to a win.

    In Game 2 the ref blows up a storm of penalties, the play the ball is much quicker and Queensland dominate.

    So it becomes a lottery - which way will the ref go (or be told to go) in Game Three?

    Archer refused to police the play the ball in the GF last year. 

    Manly, like Queensland, thrive where we get quick play the balls.
     
  2. SilentBob

    SilentBob Well-Known Member

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    Fair points I think, same ref, two games controlled very differently, no consistency at all from game to game.

    The only upside is seeing Bellamy not get his way for once.
     
  3. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Never a truer word spoken. Absolutely diabolical the inconsistency of the policing of the ruck. Queensland were better tonight on the back of a whistle blower that suited their game plan. Can't help feeling NSW were blindsided on this front as they would be right in expecting a similar standard of refereeing as Game 1. Makes for an interesting Game 3. Maybe Archer won't get the nod.

    The other thing that incensed me was the dropped ball/stripping rulings. If that was a club game then 90% of those ruled as dropped balls would have been called as strips by the video clown. Because it's Origin the gutless little wonder watching the monitor is too scared to stick his neck out. Where is the consistency there ??

    Well done to Qld they were the better side and played smarter, but they got quite a few leg ups that helped blow the score out.
     
  4. ManlyBacker

    ManlyBacker Winging it Staff Member

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    Qld - dirty rotten cheating bastards. But totally dominating, spread it wide, showed us up through the forwards and through the backs, tackled like demons and despite the ref, were deserving winning dirty rotten cheating bastards! That's all I have to say - way too good. Good on them for turning it around.
     
  5. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    Consider - the ruck is in play at every play (obviously).  There are something like 400 rucks in the course of a game.

    To have such a vastly different approach at the ruck from one game to the next - it can't help but have a massive impact on the game.

    Thus the most important question for Origin III is not who gets picked, how the coaches prepare etc.

    It will boil down to what approach the referee will emply at the ruck area.  And that sucks.
     
  6. The Wheel

    The Wheel Well-Known Member

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    Matabele you have never written such a wise post as this, couldn't agree more
     
  7. Utility Player

    Utility Player Well-Known Member

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    Too true, if Qld dropped the ball it was a strip penalty if NSW dropped it there was a scrum with a QLD feed.
     
  8. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I watched the game in the middle of the Tavern in Hervey Bay, I went there by myself decked out in Blues gear and was surrounded by QLD supporters, I was either brave or stupid, but still it was a good night and a few people who came and sat with me and chatted to me, were very fair about it, though they don't know football and I had to explain to them what was happening with ref decisions and why it was pissing me off.

    Turner went completely missing I can't believe how poor he was!
     
  9. clontaago

    clontaago Well-Known Member

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    I can believe how poor he was, because he is always poor. He plays in one of the best backlines we might ever see and they make him look better than he is.

    How many tries did Brett Stewart save? His tackling is copybook stuff. 
     
  10. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    He pulld off some cracking tackles, outstanding in so many ways.

    They left the poor guy exposed at the back there and there was nothing he could do. The amount of times he was left 3 on one was ridiculous
     
  11. Nutzcraw

    Nutzcraw Active Member

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    NSW need changes.

    I'd like to see this team run around in game 3.

    Stewart
    Hayne
    Gasnier
    Cooper
    Quinn
    Wallace
    Gidley
    Bailey
    Buderus
    Kite
    Mason
    Gallen
    Bird

    Tupou
    Fitzgibbon
    Laffranchi
    Cross/O'meley/White


    Much more balanced in my opinion.
     
  12. Canteen Worker

    Canteen Worker Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Why have Gidley. I think he is a waste of space. I would much rather Mullen or a half we will stick with. Some would suggest that Anasta should play. There has to be a ball player on both sides of the ruck.. We do not need dinosaurs like O'Meley.
     
  13. The Wheel

    The Wheel Well-Known Member

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    O'meley was an embarrassment last weekend
     
  14. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Qld won last night because they played a Bellamy (Melbourne Storm) game plan.  Quick play the balls, move up fast and target the ball carrier not the outside man who may or may not get the ball.  This is the same way Melbourne beat us last year. Manly did not get done because we 'like' to play the ball quick,as Matabele suggests, rather our ruck play was slow and Melbourne's quick.  CW, NSW do not need Anasta.  We exposed his game last weekend.  All he has is get to the line and kick.  I doesn't work if you play the game away from the line and have adequate tall catching outside backs, like we do and Qld has.  The thing is NSW has inadequate forwards (Simpson, White?) this year and Quinn, Wallace and Gidley are not up to the pace.  Kite is not the answer, to slow and bad hands.  Back to the drawing board and think harder.  Qld won't be asleep at the wheel for the first twenty minutes next time     
     
  16. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    Our PTB and ruck was slow because Archer did not police the Storm getting off us.  And we didn't adapt and lie all over them like they were doing to us.

    He also let them stand offside all night.  again we did not adjust and stood back in line with him all night like brainless lemmings. 
     
  17. Jatz Crackers

    Jatz Crackers Moderator Staff Member

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    Have you explained website construction, fibre to the node broadband, and the design of the www & all that techical stuff to them yet Dan ?  ;)
     
  18. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    With the way the were staring at the pretty lights and moving pictures on the TV I didn't have the patience to start yet.

    When are you coming up here to show me the fishing spots mate?

    Surely we need to organise a SE QLD Sea Eagles meet up
     
  19. Jatz Crackers

    Jatz Crackers Moderator Staff Member

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    LOL......go slow on them.

    Yep, the SEQ get together sounds good. Ill be in it. Fish Fraser Island, theres always something on there.
     
  20. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I couldn't believe how they screamed and cheered yet had not an idea of the rules or even able to see set plays or patterns in the game.

    I figure they must have just liked the colours on the television
     

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