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Henry haunted by "Hand of Foz"

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by ManlyBacker, Sep 15, 2013.

  1. ManlyBacker

    ManlyBacker Winging it Staff Member

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    Departing coach Neil Henry rejected a personal apology from NRL chief executive Dave Smith after refereeing errors again helped to end North Queensland's season when Cronulla winger Beau Ryan scored a seventh-tackle try.

    The incident, which revived memories of the seventh-tackle tries in the 1978 finals series, was one of several major controversies in the match, which appeared to have lasted 40 seconds longer than it should have due to a time-keeping problem.

    Sharks coach Shane Flanagan described the time-keeping issue as ''concerning'' but his anger was nothing compared to that of Henry who spoke directly to Smith.

    Smith and several NRL commissioners entered the North Queensland dressing room after the match to apologise for the refereeing blunder.

    Onlookers described Smith as looking shaken as he left the change room and a furious Henry told the post-match press conference that their words were a waste of time after NRL officials last season apologised to the Cowboys for another refereeing controversy in their defeat by Manly.
    Crunch time: Sharks winger Beau Ryan runs into the teeth of the North Queensland defence.

    ''It has been a couple of years in a row they've admitted crucial errors which has cost us points,'' Henry said. ''It astounds me that it happened. It's embarrassing for the game. I've got that from the top.''

    Asked what he had said to Smith, Henry said: ''He apologised. A couple of commissioners were saying the same thing. I got the same talk last year. It happened to be my club. It's six points that shouldn't have been in the game.''

    The incident occurred exactly 12 months to the day that video referees Steve Clark and Paul Simpkins missed a knock-on by Kieran Foran in the lead up to a Jorge Taufua try during the Sea Eagles' win in last year's finals series. ''We don't forget that Kieran Foran moment. We trained with that moment all year,'' Henry said.

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    NRL head of football Todd Greenberg immediately announced an inquiry into how referees Matt Cecchin and Henry Perenara had lost count as Cronulla went the length of the field on the set of tackles before Ryan's eighth-minute try. There were suggestions that North Queensland halfback Robert Lui had dropped the ball before getting a boot to it but match officials did not signal zero tackle when Andrew Fifita fielded the kick.

    Instead, they correctly called the second tackle but did not call the third or fourth tackle.

    Cecchin then called ''fourth'' as Luke Lewis played the ball on what should have been the fifth tackle and Sam Tagataese burst through the middle of the ruck before being tackled short of the line.

    The Cowboys should have received possession from a change over but instead Cronulla received one more tackle and five-eighth Todd Carney passed the ball to centre Ben Pomeroy who put Ryan over with a flick pass.

    ''Daniel Anderson. How can two experienced full-time referees, two touch judges, two blokes up in the video box not be counting when I have got Paul Bowman next to me on the computer and he said, 'I think that's an extra tackle there'. He goes back and checks it straight away,'' Henry said.

    ''It's a schoolboy error. You don't see that in Queensland Cup or local A-grade. You count your tackles. You expect the players to perform on the biggest stage, this is when the pressure is on. Well, your referees have got to perform too and they have proven a couple of years in a row now that they aren't up to it.''

    Greenberg said he would meet with Anderson to examine how such a mistake occurred. ''What is most concerning is that there are checks and balances across the entire squad to safeguard against the referees making such a mistake. We don't want this happening again.''

    http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/no-thanks-chief-henry-rejects-smiths-apology-20130914-2trmf.html#ixzz2euODPLoZ
     
  2. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Now Henry knows what it feels like to be Checchined. We've been putting up with it for years.
     
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  3. MadMarcus

    MadMarcus Local Lunatic 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    How come nobody mentions the 95 grand final when talking about 7th tackle tries??
     
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  4. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    These fu**wits up in North Qld never remember that dodgy try they scored do they
     
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  5. HappilyManly

    HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Henry's arithmetic is as good as those Referees' - Lost to Manly by 10, lost to sharks by 12 - NRL try worth 6 points only :cool:

    Do the math, Cowboys :exclamation:
     
  6. ManlyBacker

    ManlyBacker Winging it Staff Member

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    His comments gave me a good laugh. It was 22 - 12 and they never looked likely.
    Not much in yesterday's game but I thought overall the Gummies were just a shade better.
     
  7. shook

    shook New Member

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    I'm pretty sure the score against the sharks was 20-18?
     
  8. HappilyManly

    HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Its contagious! - however their Manly Finals loss is the Monkey on Henry's back :p
     
  9. shook

    shook New Member

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    Hahaha, yes manly still had a 10 point buffer on them, even though they had still scored a dubious try in last years final too.
     
  10. Mark from Brisbane

    Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

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    You should see todays Courier Mail (always good for a laugh!!)
     
  11. The Who

    The Who Well-Known Member

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    Have they adopted the Cowboys since their overrated Broncos finished so low?
     
  12. panash

    panash Well-Known Member

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    didnt they score a try against us which should of been a penalty to us
    ( rake )..

    people have short term memories or want to forget easily things that dont suit them...

    how about we do henry and the cowboys a favor and knock off the sharks next week !!

    then we may become their heroes !!!
     
  13. Mark from Brisbane

    Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

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    Yep last QLD team, pages of Cowboys stuff yesterday and today.........back page has photo of the to ref and gigantic words " bloody idiots "' inside there's about 4 pages.....oh and about 10 Cm on the other game
     
  14. Utility Player

    Utility Player Well-Known Member

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    Surly Anderson has to show Checchin the back door now.
     
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  15. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Just reading Tate crying about how the NRL has a conspiracy against Qld haha
     
  16. Garts

    Garts Well-Known Member

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    They have every right to be filthy. If that was us on the receiving end you lot would have flooded the Northern Beaches with your tears.
     
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  17. HappilyManly

    HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Just watched the replay and the Sharkies caught the ball so could have been called zero tackle.
    The TV tackle count did not indicate this however:huh:

    On the fifth tackle, you can actually hear Ceccin yell 'four', so he was counting from zero and not one.

    Lets hope Manly clear their heads, as the Sharkies are there for the taking :shy:
     
  18. Volley

    Volley Well-Known Member

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    Fifita caught it from a kick, therefore it couldn't have been 'zero' tackle.
     
  19. HappilyManly

    HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    True, but I can see how the Referee could have assumed the zero tackle turnover mentally and counted from that.

    Its not like the 1995, 1978 7th tackle try situations as we had no concept of zero in the last Century:cool:
     
  20. Brissie Kid

    Brissie Kid Well-Known Member

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    There's no debate about whether the Sharks got 7 tackles or not. Despite what the Cowboys say, there's nothing to conclusively say Foz knocked on. Completely different situations.

    And well done NRL media for completely ignoring Manly were equally "robbed" of a grand final win in 1995 off a 7 tackle try AND two tries that were forward passes.
     

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