Hannant linked to Manly

[Kiwi Eagle]

Who cares what age he is. They key is how he is playing, and Stevie Wonder can see that in the past 2 NRL season his form has been high quality

Too many people judge someones ability based on a number beside their name. Guess we should have flicked Beaver aside in about 2006 because he was over the hill

 

[Lord Eagleton]

I would suggest that a players longevity in the game differ's player to player. Not all football players were created equal... Toovs/Warwick/the board seemingly made the call on Gifty that at 30 his best was behind him. I know available money was a big factor but Gift's injuries/contribution/value for money going forward would have also been raised. That would appear to be a harsh call, as he is a freak, and 30 is certainly not over the hill, injuries pending.

Mason on the otherhand is not in the same ballpark as Gift and is 4 years older than him. He is also no Menzies, who is all class. When players hit early 30's its not a matter of if, but when. Their best is behind them, their bodies are declining. Muscles, joints, bones are not the same as when they were 25. Presently I would not be recruiting a player exclusively to 'rev up' and guide the younger guys. BK would be the exception to that rule all those years ago - we actually needed him then. We dont need a rev up player now. I would buy a hard working 27/28 year old prop with a big motor who gets the job done and is entering the prime of his career.

Flicking Beaver in 2006 would have been stupid because he is a great player, unlike Mason, who is only a good player. He was also a local 1-club junior, not a blow-in who has been to many clubs. He is a part of the fabric at Manly. There are different circumstances and the comparison does not make sense. Again, ones longevity in the game differs from player to player. With Mason turning 35 next year I don't see him providing great value for the Manly pack. Id get someone else.

 

[tookey]

Disagree all you like. But you don't know much. Ask anyone who has played with Willie in recent years and they will tell you the young guys respect him as a forward leader and it gives them confidence to play alongside him.

He's 34 now. You do the maths. He was 20 when he first played for the Bulldogs and was in all the trouble. How long ago was that?

Short memory. The roosters punted him because he was a troublemaker

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/mouthy-mason-in-trouble-again/story-e6frexnr-1225796234264

http://thenewdaily.com.au/sport/2014/03/10/willie-mason-fined-suspended-drink-driving/

http://www.news.com.au/national/mason-urinates-in-public/story-e6frfkp9-1225713059593

 

[niccipops]

He has been known to say what he thinks...

That's a S10,000 fine in some cases.

 

[Snake]

Who cares what age he is. They key is how he is playing, and Stevie Wonder can see that in the past 2 NRL season his form has been high quality

Too many people judge someones ability based on a number beside their name. Guess we should have flicked Beaver aside in about 2006 because he was over the hill

are you talking about Hannant or Mason?

I think Mason has been cumbersome since way back at the Bulldogs. I don't rate him one bit.

 

[Shoe1]

I think mason is pedestrian and has been for about 5 years.

 

[Stevo]

Disagree all you like. But you don't know much. Ask anyone who has played with Willie in recent years and they will tell you the young guys respect him as a forward leader and it gives them confidence to play alongside him.

He's 34 now. You do the maths. He was 20 when he first played for the Bulldogs and was in all the trouble. How long ago was that?

Short memory. The roosters punted him because he was a troublemaker

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/mouthy-mason-in-trouble-again/story-e6frexnr-1225796234264

http://thenewdaily.com.au/sport/2014/03/10/willie-mason-fined-suspended-drink-driving/

http://www.news.com.au/national/mason-urinates-in-public/story-e6frfkp9-1225713059593

That was nearly 8 years ago. What exactly is your point?

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Who cares what age he is. They key is how he is playing, and Stevie Wonder can see that in the past 2 NRL season his form has been high quality

Too many people judge someones ability based on a number beside their name. Guess we should have flicked Beaver aside in about 2006 because he was over the hill

are you talking about Hannant or Mason?

I think Mason has been cumbersome since way back at the Bulldogs. I don't rate him one bit.

You obviously did not watch one game he has played in the last two years.

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http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/willie-masons-hilarious-spree-against-dragons-while-micd-up-for-sterlo-in-final-knights-game/story-e6frf3su-1227056245952

 

[Frank]

Mason has been ALL quality since he has been at the Knights. Would be happy to have him here for another two years. He could almost play a BK type leadership role.

Put me down as a yes for Russell Packer.

However, I have to draw the line at another mormon.

 

[Loobs]

Mason got pinged for drink driving at the start of this year...

 

[Snake]

Disagree all you like. But you don't know much. Ask anyone who has played with Willie in recent years and they will tell you the young guys respect him as a forward leader and it gives them confidence to play alongside him.

He's 34 now. You do the maths. He was 20 when he first played for the Bulldogs and was in all the trouble. How long ago was that?

Short memory. The roosters punted him because he was a troublemaker

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/mouthy-mason-in-trouble-again/story-e6frexnr-1225796234264

http://thenewdaily.com.au/sport/2014/03/10/willie-mason-fined-suspended-drink-driving/

http://www.news.com.au/national/mason-urinates-in-public/story-e6frfkp9-1225713059593

That was nearly 8 years ago. What exactly is your point?

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Who cares what age he is. They key is how he is playing, and Stevie Wonder can see that in the past 2 NRL season his form has been high quality

Too many people judge someones ability based on a number beside their name. Guess we should have flicked Beaver aside in about 2006 because he was over the hill

are you talking about Hannant or Mason?

I think Mason has been cumbersome since way back at the Bulldogs. I don't rate him one bit.

You obviously did not watch one game he has played in the last two years.

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http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/willie-masons-hilarious-spree-against-dragons-while-micd-up-for-sterlo-in-final-knights-game/story-e6frf3su-1227056245952

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I watch all the games, and I think he is cumbersome. He makes the occasional big charge at the very beginning of the game, but runs out of puff after 10 minutes, and then remains a liability (particularly in defence) for the remainder of the game.

 

[bob dylan]

Mason got pinged for drink driving at the start of this year...

So did our Fullback.

It happens.

 

[Loobs]

Yeah either way - does happen - but shouldn't.

 

[Stevo]

Mason got pinged for drink driving at the start of this year...

So did Brett Stewart

 

[Masked Eagle]

Mason got pinged for drink driving at the start of this year...

So did our Fullback.

It happens.

Won't be a problem with Hannant.

 

[lsz]

As did Kingy?

 

[EagleFlys]

Hannat - NO - old, not valued by Bennet, wanted to leave Sydney cause he was homesick at the scumdogs, so why should we take him.

Packer - NO - Criminal. Do I really need to say more.

Mason - NO - Well past it, and another year wont see improvement.

now who do you say ?

RICHIE is the one. Pay him properly and bring the wrecking ball back.

 

[swoop]

Why do we need to rush out and buy a prop? We need to secure the signatures of some of our own first.

Yes, we need to rebuild but there is no rush.We've been the most dominant team in the last decade and we expect success immediately but we've also been spoilt.

If a decent prop becomes available at the right price then sign him. Rebuilding takes time, so let Warwick and the retention team do their stuff even if it means we are not as competitive in the short-term.

 

[Shoe1]

Why do we need to rush out and buy a prop? We need to secure the signatures of some of our own first.

Yes, we need to rebuild but there is no rush.We've been the most dominant team in the last decade and we expect success immediately but we've also been spoilt.

If a decent prop becomes available at the right price then sign him. Rebuilding takes time, so let Warwick and the retention team do their stuff even if it means we are not as competitive in the short-term.

I agree, no need to rush and sign another old bloke. The narrow loss in the semi shows that we will hit a good rhythm next year. It took us less than a game to get some combinations happening. Pity we were 16 behind before it came together a bit. With a full off season, the injection of turbo and another young prop I think we will be competitive again.

Of course if we lose all the blokes rumored to go them it's back to the drawing board.

Manly has been conservative in bringing props into 1st grade, I don't think a full year of Nsw cup will have hurt Sao or Andrews etc. Let's see what happens now with them.

Another left field theory of mine. Hiku could be a tough 5/8. He is a bit rough but is coming together. He grew a lot this year in size.

 

[Fluffy]

If the props have no one to learn off then they only learn from their mistakes, not the experience of others.

Mason could add a lot of value as could Ritchie, all depending on asking price

 

[Bomack44]

There's a big reason we need a prop and that's watmoan leaving.
He played like a 3rd prop for us and got the go forward we were lacking.
I can't see why we couldn't uses a big part of his contract savings to sign Hannant and mason.

If we could manage that and Stewart and matai stay we would be in with a big shot at a premiership in 2015