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Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Cameron, Jun 15, 2012.

  1. Cameron

    Cameron Cambo Premium Member

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    Few things from this article
    * Lovefooty owns the Hit Cafe obviously
    * we are no certainty to go back to back yet our (P Plate) COO has ensured we at worst will break even.
    * des despite being a fantastic coach was holding the joint back financially with his control freak ways.
    * who nearly punched on at the board meeting
    Scott penn and who? Bob Reilly? Tinker? The Sidney's ?
     
  2. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Maybe they could sell ringside seats for that bout as an extra fund raiser.
     
  3. eagle-rock08

    eagle-rock08 Active Member

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    "...Toovey is more permissive than former coach Des Hasler..." I don't think 2V's personal life or morals should come into it.

    If he's permissive or not that is his business, surely just as long as h e can coach.:D
     
  4. Fluffy

    Fluffy Well-Known Member

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    As a sponsor im sure thats the kind of payback you are looking for, bit of free advertising with some local celebraties. Certainly gets me thinking of going there next time im in the area.

    Well done to all involved in that area and hopefully the more sponsor friendly conditions can keep improving the bottom line and therfore stress out the owners less.....
     
  5. Mark from Brisbane

    Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

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    This was clearly shown with our WCC tour in February, the changes as a result of the new coach.

    In 2009, we had no access to the players and the only time this happened was after the game at the team hotel and then only because we had three Dad's on the trip with us.

    In 2012, the coach, new assistant coach, football manager and COO came to the tour hotel on night one and stayed for about 2 -3 hours.

    We then had the players sit with us for a Super League game

    And then we had dinner with the players (and several hours of one on ones).

    We then watched them train, and a few interacted with them at the end of the training session (kicking footies etc etc).

    And there was more (couple of functions).

    In 2009 Grant Mayer was totally onside.....the one between difference between 2009 and 2012...... De$ Ha$ler!!
     
  6. Central Coast Eagle

    Central Coast Eagle Active Member

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    Actually two Mark, we won in 2009....
     
  7. voicefromthehill

    voicefromthehill Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    For me the greater issue is not extending Perry's contract. He has done a great job IMO, stupid pissing comps should not be the reason we don't try to keep a good - and steadily improving. CEO/COO
     
  8. Phantar

    Phantar Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure that will be sorted out. They were just diverted by other issues.
     
  9. Elvis Presley

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    Toovs is a very intelligent bloke.
    Many fans may not know this but Toovey is a Chartered Accountant, so definitely he knows his numbers :idea::idea:
     
  10. lovefooty

    lovefooty Well-Known Member

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    I all so was told that the heated debate was left to the end of the meeting and all the other business was dealt with first and passed unanimously.
    I think they are use to heated debate and deal with the things that need to be done so the running of the business is not affected .
    That's my take on it anyway.
     
  11. Clint

    Clint . Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    You can't trust those accountants EP. They are dodgy..
     
  12. Central Coast Eagle

    Central Coast Eagle Active Member

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    I'm sure your sources would love you coming onto an open forum and sharing that information.
     
  13. Brookvale

    Brookvale Well-Known Member

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    Tooves has the Accounting background and on the NRMA board of directors. 2V Has far more business sense than Des did. Although Dessie did run a wattle supply business.
     
  14. lsz

    lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Time will tell if he is as good a coach as des
     
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  15. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Des is one of maybe the top 5 coaches in history. Just marticuluos. He is starting to get that allure Wayne Bennett and Craig Bellamy have, where players will rise for their reputation alone.

    It's why The Bulldogs, with relatively the same roster as last season, are now sitting second, as upposed to down the bottom last year.

    Toovey on the other hand, has an excellent, wonderful squad (this year) so we SHOULD be there, or there about's. I know I have critiqued him, but we have had key injuries, suspensions, contract negotiation, and 3-4 playing in constant dialogue with other teams.

    I guess 8th as of today is "ok" on that basis. Since he started, Tooves has lost 7, and won 8 (including a trial against The Sharks, and a lost WCC to Wigan), so he's a winning coach.

    My concern is that a lot of our blue-chip young players are leaving, so we may not have the same "quality" of player as The Dogs next season, who seem to continue to be able to buy whoever they want, so I don't know if we will be able to look at apples vs. apples.

    Then again maybe DSM5's point is valid, and age shall NOT wary them. I look at Galuvao, and he is possibly our best, most consistent forward this year. Then there was Ben Kennedy, who almost single handedly turned this team around.

    Toovey (in my opinion) now needs to blood some young players like James Cunningham, Tim Robinson & others at the expense of Tony Williams and Darcy Lussick. I'd also have Oldfield in there, on the wing rather than Whare in the vent of Wolfman's injury.

    Next season, I'm hoping for (as our top 25):-

    01. Brett Stewart
    02. Jorge Taufua
    03. Steve Matai
    04. Jamie Lyon
    05. David Williams
    06. Kieran Foran
    07. Daly Cherry-Evans
    08. Jason King
    09. Matt Ballin
    10. Brent Kite
    11. Anthony Watmough
    12. Michael Chee-Kam (very young)
    13. Glenn Stewart

    14. Jamie Buhrer (young)
    15. George Rose
    16. James Cunningham (young)
    17. Daniel Harrison (young)

    18. Vic Mauro
    19. Michael Oldfield
    20. Tim Robinson
    21. Liam Foran
    22. Ben Farrar
    23. Joe Galuvao
    24. Jason Annear
    25. Nick Skinner

    Not bad depth either - so I may have been rash earlier - as our roster still looks very tidy (based upon NO signings outside our shop like the possibility of Shackleton).
     
  16. lsz

    lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Agree re Des

    Take away any feelings you have about how he left the club there is not doubt he is a fantastic coach

    In fact, considering the constraints he was under here (financial and the alleged board issues) it is scary to think what could happen at the dogs
     
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  17. Cameron

    Cameron Cambo Premium Member

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    Des is a fine coach but it clear to see his closed shop mentality was costing our club income that we couldn't afford to be losing especially when he demanded more and more money be spent on cuttIng edge sports science technology.
     
  18. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Lets be fair mate, we have no idea of what baskets of worms could have been opened at said events. Des would have made that trade off. It wouldn't have been a decision Des would have made, just to make it.

    There would have been analysis and sensitivities that would have needed to be considered.

    I remember one event Geoff Toovey and some other players did with Pepsi after the blokes had a massive night out the day before, and Pepsi were livid (was it Pepsi?).

    It's a risk vs. reward thing mate. If your Des coming out of that night at Manly Wharf Bar, and had the vultures (media) circling like a hungry Shark with blood in the water, you'd close doors too I reckon.

    This is yet another positive for Des. I rate him above all others, Bellamy.
     
  19. Fluffy

    Fluffy Well-Known Member

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    only 9 of the 17 playing this round played in the same round last year.

    Basically 50% different, would not call that relatively unchanged.

    and talking about ladder posistions mid way through a round is just strange.

    a win by 5 and we are now going great guns.

    its a very fine line for you isnt it?
     

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