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Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Matabele, Aug 18, 2005.

  1. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    By popular demand, here's one from one of the most infamous threads that has ever appeared on MSE. (And in the days before Mata was banned)

    Love the pop psychology

    :blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh:

    [Name deleted], I think if I started a thread similar to this there’d be a significant line up of people that would be queuing up to sink the boot into me. I say that because you and I would react to that in different ways.

    To make my point I’d like to digress into some very basic psychology (some may even call it pop psychology, but not to worry). In life you will find that our experiences, family and demographic background and learning mould us into roughly four categories of people, with particular reference to how we relate to others. In summary these are:

    1. People who see themselves as okay and also see others as okay (otherwise known as gentle or content);
    2. People who see themselves as okay and others as not okay (generally considered arrogant);
    3. People who view themselves as not okay, but see others as okay (generally approach life with an admiring attitude to others); and
    4. People who view themselves as not okay, and also see others as not okay (generally leading defeated lives).

    No surprises that in my current station in life I most closely resemble category number two. Thus the barbs and arrows that would come my way if I started such a thread would be shrugged off because I’d generally view the opinions of others as inferior to my own.

    My reading of the situation is that you are probably best described as Category Three. Thus there might be insecurities and hurts that have been dealt your way in life, but you have wonderfully been able to maintain a generally positive outlook to others in life, which is to be commended.

    The only problem, as I see it, is you are probably putting too much emphasis upon the opinions of others. This is a dangerous tendency amongst those who don’t view themselves as okay but value what other people think. However, the reality is that your post is going up on a public message board where people are effectively “hiding� behind anonymous names. This presents a range of problems:

    1. Most of them have no idea about you at all, and are not qualified in the least to make any form of comment;
    2. We are operating in the medium of the written word, one of the easiest forms of communication that can be misunderstood or misconstrued. The reality is that the written word leaves out important secondary communication indicators such as tone and inflection of voice as well as the use of body language.
    3. The anonymity gives people license to say things they would not normally say in real life to a flesh and blood human in front of them. This means that they can say hurtful or thoughtless things with little thought to their consequences of impact.
    4. You are exposed to a broad spectrum of society with all manner of opinions. This is a consequence of living in a modern age, where internet connects people from all around the world but does little to bring them “closer together� or create any form of genuine community, care or concern.

    So, my advice? Don’t place too much emphasis upon the opinions of the majority on these message boards. Really, in life there are probably very few opinions of you and your worth that really matter. Few people will know you well enough to make an accurate and informed judgement on that. In Western society most people would struggle to list more than ten other souls who would know them well enough to accurately make that sort of judgement.

    My reading of this thread is that there are several posters who know you well, through various forms of relationship. All of those have radically affirmed you and expressed their appreciation and even love of you. These are the people that know you best and they have wonderfully affirmed you. These are the opinions that count. Be encouraged and content.

    As for your continued participation on these boards, do so content in the knowledge that these message boards are not designed for you to gain an estimation of your place in this world. They are hopelessly inadequate to do that. You are free to express your opinion, safe in the realisation that if you are misunderstood or the victim of some kind of abuse, it is more likely the fault of the form of communication we’re dealing with here than any fault or weakness in your own thoughts.

    However, take on board the thoughts and opinions of others, using that to improve your knowledge and understanding. In this life we’re never all going to agree but that doesn’t excuse us from the task of understanding each other and moving forward constructively to a higher purpose.
     
  2. Utility Player

    Utility Player Well-Known Member

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    What was the result Mata? don't tell me that upset people sounded educational to me
     
  3. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    If it was educational it was sure to upset the herd at MSE. The head scratching and heavy breathing would have surely piqued their anger
     
  4. Fro

    Fro Well-Known Member

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    I had forgotten how full of sh!t you were sometimes Matas :) :)
     
  5. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    his nickname is Sorbent!
     
  6. Fro

    Fro Well-Known Member

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    the 2 ply kid
     
  7. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    yup, and extra soft. the name just works on so many levels for him :D
     
  8. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    I was banned shortly after that.

    Ask C-eagle, he was heavily involved in that thread. :lol:

    Are you humping my leg again Dan?
     
  9. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    lol cadbury, no I am not
     
  10. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    No worries Rowntree.
     
  11. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    glad we have an understanding creme egg
     
  12. c_eagle

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    Why did you post this? It was the least funny post in the whole thread.
     
  13. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    I'm not going to disagree with that.
     
  14. Fro

    Fro Well-Known Member

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    There IS a first time for everything :dance:
     
  15. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    I'm really scared of c_eagle, to be honest.

    He is the forum sponsor of sarcasm on MSE after all!
     
  16. Fro

    Fro Well-Known Member

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    you have nothing to fear but fear itself.

    anyone who needs to advertise their use of sarcasm obviously doesn't know how to use it properly
     
  17. c_eagle

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    Damn. In that case, I have to get my business cards reprinted.
     
  18. c_eagle

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    Seriously though, I would like to take a look at that thread again. How'd you find it? I hope you didn't copy and paste your response in a txt file.
     
  19. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    Because it was a long message I'd typed it in a word file. MSE had a tendency to crash. Imagine if that happened as you reached the last sentence of the masterpiece!
     
  20. Fro

    Fro Well-Known Member

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    I'm dreaming of it wistfully as we speak
     

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