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From the Telegraph "One innocent man does not crack a code’s ugly secret"

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  1. Uskovic

    Uskovic New Member

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    From the Telegraph "One innocent man does not crack a code’s ugly secret"

    One innocent man does not crack a code’s ugly secret
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    David Penberthy
    Monday, October 04, 2010 at 05:31pm 


    THE NRL Footy Show might be good for a lot of things such as cross-dressing or making jokes about people who wear tracksuits and live in Bankstown but it’s probably not the ideal forum for an impartial examination of the law of sexual assault.

    To describe the program as blokey doesn’t do it justice. Like its AFL equivalent, this all-male show has long resisted attempts to bring female analysts of the game into the fold.

    The program is skewed towards the players’ perspective when it comes to the degree of scrutiny they face, the demands placed on them, their hounding by fans and groupies.

    We saw this last year when the program’s general line on the Matthew Johns sex scandal was poor old Matty was the real victim in an episode which had been blown out of proportion by a bunch of female journos.

    So it was last Thursday when The Footy Show became the uncritical vehicle for absolution in the Brett Stewart case.

    Just to be clear - Brett Stewart deserves absolution. It seems regrettable that the case against him made it to court.

    But in the public debate surrounding the Stewart case, one important point should be remembered.

    There’s a big difference between offering absolution for Stewart and offering a dangerous kind of generalised absolution which seeks to excuse, dismiss or downplay behaviour which at best is boorish and at worst is criminal.

    There was an undercurrent to last Thursday’s Footy Show which, either unwittingly or by design, presented the Stewart case as proof of what they’ve always suspected - that there’s plenty of sheilas out there who just make this stuff up.

    Phil Gould might be the self-styled intellectual of league but when it comes to interviewing the bloke is more Oprah Winfrey than David Frost.

    What Gould does is lend a sympathetic ear, which is why there was no examination on Thursday of the reckless culture within the Manly Sea Eagles which directly placed Brett Stewart (and every other player present) in a very iffy situation at last year’s season launch.

    Stewart’s encounter with this girl came at the end of an all-day booze-up organised by the club at which one of the players insulted a sponsor for his daughter’s dress sense.

    Gould opted not to explore this interesting feature of the story, which you could easily argue suggested dereliction of duty on the club’s behalf, but opted instead to waffle on about whether the case showed how careful blokes have to be.

    The unspoken conclusion was blokes have got to be careful because there’s plenty of sheilas out there who just make this stuff up.

    It’s of some credit to Gould that he left it unspoken. But in the public domain, on news websites, fan websites and talkback radio, it was not so much spoken but shouted. Stories were stitched together about other cases ie, two cases - which had also fallen apart to create an artificial sense that pretty much any allegation or charge ever levelled against a league player was a fantasy.

    And that of itself is a fantasy.

    League doesn’t have a monopoly on this problem. This is not a league-bashing exercise.

    There are a couple of blokes in Saturday’s losing AFL grand final side who have provided the Victorian Police sexual assault unit with a bit of work in the past couple of years.

    Yesterday we learnt that the two players from the premiers Collingwood are under investigation over sexual assault allegations arising from post-match celebrations.

    It transcends codes, class, colour and creed. And we have all got a problem if we look at the Stewart case as proof that sexual assault allegations should be viewed with suspicion, or that the system is somehow skewed against men. The system remains massively skewed against women.

    The danger is the public debate surrounding the Stewart case might discourage other women who actually have been victims of sexual assault from coming forward. It should not.

    The added negative in this case is that so much has been made of the woman’s mental illness. This has been one of the more tasteless features of this whole sad tale.

    It’s been an open secret for months in media circles that the woman was “not all there” because people at the Manly Sea Eagles launched a whispering campaign.

    On the basis of what the jury found, those allegations deserved to be rubbished.

    But the disturbing end result of it all is that we’ve now got a ready-made “mad sheila” defence which can be used by men who, unlike Stewart, don’t deserve sympathy but a long stint in a cold cell.
     
  2. Moondog

    Moondog Grey-beard loon Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    "The reckless culture within the Manly Sea Eagles". Who is this arsehole!
     
  3. Mark from Brisbane

    Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

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    Another typical News Ltd hack....and his name's David as well!
     
  4. Uskovic

    Uskovic New Member

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    Re: From the Telegraph "One innocent man does not crack a code’s ugly secret"

    Thats what I was thinking when i first read it " the Reckless culture at the Manly SeaEagles".  I was discusted and threw away the paper once i read it

    However i should of kept it because he had 3 email address where we could email him and he is due for a live blog sometime today

    If someone has todays Telegraph the article is located close to the mid section of the paper

    If someone can get his email from there and post it on here i would love to email this clown and give him a Spray
     
  5. smcgarrigle

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    copy of email sent to penbathy this morning
    Hi David,

    Once again you and your organisation have misled readers into believing that Manly’s  season launch of 2009 was about a group of footballers on a 14 hour bender and falling around drunk. Nothing could be further from the truth. Yes,  alcohol did flow freely for sponsors and players and there was an unfortunate incident where Anthony Watmough passed  judgement on the attire of a young lady which in turn earnt the ire of her father, a club sponsor,  who wanted to take the matter further.
    My point being that Brett Stewart was proven at his trial to be in total control of himself at all times, even though he had been drinking. It is not illegal to have a few drinks. Anthony Watmough would have made the same comments whether he had been drinking or not………….that’s just him. No player was arrested for bad behaviour and there’s no evidence anywhere for  you to assume that any player was a basket case rolling around drunk. It just didn’t happen.
    If you are trying to cast some doubt on the integrity of the Manly Football Club in order to cover your papers lies and innuendo in regard to the Brett Stewart sexual assault case you have failed. All you have done in writing your column today  is confirm that The Daily Telegraph is very capable of writing stories without fact.
    Steve
     
  6. MadMarcus

    MadMarcus Local Lunatic 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Absolutely disgraceful that Manly would sling mud at the alleged victim through their devious campaign of telling the truth.  I'm not quite sure how this 'whispering campaign' worked or how they knew it came from within the Sea Eagles.  Unusually for a News Ltd publication, the author in this case has failed to cite a reliable source for this information.

    If the Sea Eagles can get away with this whispering campaign it is clear that they have far too much power in the media.  They should surrender it to somebody everyone trusts, like News Ltd, the guardians of journalistic ethics in Australia .
     
  7. castle eagle

    castle eagle Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    email penberthyd@thepunch.com.au
    blog  www.dailytelegraph.com.au
    twitter (or should that be f-witter) www.twitter.com/penbo
     
  8. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    they are scared of legal deramation action , now Manly may be able to take this nuffy on,  A suggestion would be Manly has nothing to do with news ltd and its reporters from any news
     
  9. Masked Eagle

    Masked Eagle Well-Known Member

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    It would be nice, but Sarah Murdoch mightn't be too happy with it.
     
  10. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    It's funny. This "journalist" suggests a certain group of people are not qualified to speak about these types of issues, yet at the same time, is doing so himself.

    Interesting eh, how journalist just know everything about everything.
     
  11. Masked Eagle

    Masked Eagle Well-Known Member

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    Its seems his blog might be a bit of a bust.  Supposed to have been happening for a while but still no posts.
     
  12. brookiegreg

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    Re: From the Telegraph "One innocent man does not crack a code’s ugly secret"

    Good on you for challenging the innacuracies in this piece. But it might have been worthwhile also to state other facts to put his piece right:

    1. The 2009 launch went for 4-5 hours (does anyone have the exact figure and can anyone who was there verify?) it started about 1pm and went til about 5 or 6 pm?
    2. It was not a drunken orgy, and apart from Choc's stupid indiscretion, it was a good natured celebration of great success winning the World Club Challenge 5 days earlier and looking towards a successful coming season from the then Premiers.
    As you say, it is not against the law to have half a dozen drinks. In Brett Stewart's case, he set a responsible example by taking a cab home.

    Rugby League would be the better for having more of such players who are true gentlemen such as Beaver and Brett Stewart
     
  13. Uskovic

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    Good on you for challenging the innacuracies in this piece. But it might have been worthwhile also to state other facts to put his piece right:

    1. The 2009 launch went for 4-5 hours (does anyone have the exact figure and can anyone who was there verify?) it started about 1pm and went til about 5 or 6 pm?
    2. It was not a drunken orgy, and apart from Choc's stupid indiscretion, it was a good natured celebration of great success winning the World Club Challenge 5 days earlier and looking towards a successful coming season from the then Premiers.
    As you say, it is not against the law to have half a dozen drinks. In Brett Stewart's case, he set a responsible example by taking a cab home.

    Rugby League would be the better for having more of such players who are true gentlemen such as Beaver and Brett Stewart
    [/quote] HERE HERE
     
  14. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    But I'll still sink the slipper in given the opportunity. God these oxygen thieving journos give me the sh!ts.
     
  15. SeaEagleRock8

    SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Re: From the Telegraph "One innocent man does not crack a code’s ugly secret"

    I'd suggest people responding to this bloke try not to get too side-tracked by red herrings. An undercurrent on the footy show that there are ‘plenty of sheilas out there who just make this stuff up’ (what undercurrent??) - a general attack on Manly’s ‘reckless culture’ - and an allegation about a Manly ‘whispering campaign’ in relation to the girl’s mental issues.

    These points barely deserve a response.

    What is a concern is this. At a time when the reputation of an innocent man has been almost destroyed by false allegations and a disgracefully speculative media frenzy, this media commentator decides there is something wrong with Stewart coming forward, after 18 months of enforced silence, to try to clear his name.

    In attacking football culture in general this clown asserts that Brett wanting to clear his name somehow discourages real victims to come forward.

    By throwing all sexual assaults into one bag and implying that Stewart’s case has anything at all to do with all the other real assaults, he has succeeded in further muddying the good name of a fine young man who is innocent of any wrongdoing.
     
  16. MadMarcus

    MadMarcus Local Lunatic 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    It is the height of hypocracy for him to point the finger at Manly, when it is News Ltd who has the 'reckless culture' of reporting stories without foundation and is the one who ran the smear campaign against Stewart.
     
  17. Narly

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    This is so one-sided. What News Limited don't have Xmas parties? And I'm sure they provide rides home for anyone that gets drunk. It's just rubbish!
     
  18. Pride

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    This Penberthy is the same idiot who had to make an apology for sending around racist and derogatory text messages about that English cricketer...he's just a typical slimey journo...
     
  19. simon_eagle

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    A very hurtful opinion peice. But there is one very simple solution: don't read the Telepraph. In fact, don't have anything to do with News Ltd.. they basically signify everything horrible in the world.
     
  20. tractorboy

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    I don't remember that?
    As for the article what a load of rubbish, Rebecca Wilson in disguise
     

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