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Fight for Brookie Oval

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Craigm, Nov 23, 2011.

  1. Craigm

    Craigm New Member

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    I know a lot of people are totally over the consultation for Brookie Oval that just seems to go on and on, but now is not the time for Sea Eagles fans to fall asleep at the wheel.

    The noisy (few) local residents certainly have kept up there campaign, meaning the only message being heard right now is one of total opposition.

    At the Brekkie at Brookie on Saturday there were only about 25 people, but 70% of them identified themselves as local residents.

    Warringah Councils current online forum is also being dominated by the residents with Manly fans seriously conspicuous by their absence.

    The almost complete lack of engagement by Manly fans had meant the debate is being shifted from who will pay for the upgrade (ie State Govt by state sports trust idea or Council via development and rate rise) back to the question of whether there should be any upgrade at all or whether the private, commercial entity that is the sea Eagles should be driven out of Brookvale so the place can be turned into parkland.

    We can't afford to let things go backwards like ths. All Silvertails members (excluding bulldogs trolls) need to get on the online forum and drown out the noisy residents. Get on, have your say and make sure you Agree with the pro Sea Eagles comments and Disagree with the negative comments.

    Www.yoursaywarringah.com.au/securingbrookvalesfuture
     
  2. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    Nah, I want the club relocated to a ground with decent facilities. Preferably in South East Queensland.
     
  3. Slide

    Slide Active Member

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    Have just completed the survey, took less than 5 minutes. Thanks for the headsup that action is necessary NOW.
     
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  4. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    go and follow the Titans then[hr]
    done.
     
  5. dowdz

    dowdz Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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  6. SeaEagleRock8

    SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Didn't we go through all this a year or two ago? There was an extended on-line community feedback process. Was that all put into the bin?
     
  7. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I recall the Coucil doing almost the same thing a few years a go. There were a lot of us at that Breakfast at Brookie & it was a very pro-Manly crowd there that day.

    I guess they didn't get the results they were looking for & felt the need to run it again.
     
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  8. Mals

    Mals Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Without the State & Federal governments getting involved with significant funding the redevelopment is on a road to nowhere. Warringah council will work shop the idea to death... My local council is Hornsby & they are similar, good at creating f**k ups & bringing in special levies for council mistakes but not very productive anywhere else.
     
  9. Jonesyv2

    Jonesyv2 Active Member

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    The state trust is our best bet, we really need Warringah to go to the state government with a plan for the upgrade & the trust idea.

    Constant consultation is achieving nothing, we know there are 2 sides to the story the immediate local residents are always going to be against a redevelopment. Manly fans are going to be for it.....

    it's an endless cycle of talk
     
  10. Andrew..

    Andrew.. Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Council could divert resources from other areas eg. libraries, aged services, road maintenance etc.

    Why don't they just throw in orphanages, homeless shelters, and hospitals..lol.

    Sorry but the questions are so slanted it's funny.
     
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  11. bob dylan

    bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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  12. The Wheel

    The Wheel Well-Known Member

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    Survey completed, how much of the funds already allocated have been wasted on thsi endless cycle of talk feast?
     
  13. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I put a comment I that Council could divert resources from Councilors wages
     
  14. vidmar

    vidmar Well-Known Member

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  15. HappilyManly

    HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Berkeley_Eagle, here is what I could find about the imminent development at Brookie.
    I have not seen any works commenced at Brookie yet, but in response to some enquiries, I thought that this may clarify the timeline.

    These are the link is for the Brookvale Oval Revitalization Stage 4 ( continuation of DA2011/0544):

    • 28 March, 2011 Smith & Tzannes is a Sydney based architecture and urban planning practice
    http://www.s-tz.com.au/journal/item/29-brookvale-oval-stage-4
    • This has drawings for those that can understand them
    http://www.s-tz.com.au/projects/civic/item/57-brookvale

    • 8 June , 2011 (Excerpt from Council Meeting Minutes)
    • Brookvale Oval DA2011/0544: MR reported that the works to be completed under Stage 4 of the continuing Brookvale Oval Revitalisation project (extension and upgrade of Jane Try
    • Stand, new concourse seating, replacement toilets and kiosk etc) require DA approval and hence DA2011/0544 was submitted to Council on 27 April 2011 and is currently being assessed.
    • 6.2 DA2011/0544 Plans considered: MR presented the detailed plans for the works as per the DA and these plans were considered by the BPCC. No concerns or objections regarding the proposed works as set out in the DA were formally raised by any Committee member.

    List of all the bureaucratic docos realting to the Development Application:

    http://www.warringah.nsw.gov.au/ePlanning/Pages/XC.Track/SearchApplication.aspx?id=455910

    • 30 September, 2011 Closed RFT 2011/058
    • 18 October , 2011 Awarded to Parkview Group Australia Pty Ltd

    (Excerpt from Council Meeting Minutes)
    • 15.5 RFT 2011/058 - Brookvale Oval Revitalization Works - Stage 4 (BP REF C27)
    • 297/11 RESOLVED
    • A. That Council accept the Tender and delegate to the General Manager the authority to enter into a contract with Parkview Constructions PTY LTD to undertake Brookvale Oval Stage 4 Revitalization Works and in accordance with their tender submission, for the total contract price of $2,777,512.10 exclusive of GST.
    • B. This amount equates to $2,525,011.00 ex GST for the contract sum, and a 10% contingency amount of $252,501.10 ex GST.
    • C. Approval is sought from Council to bring forward $2.1M from the 2012/2013 budget to this financial year’s budget to increase the budget for CN5125 in 2011/2012 to $3.6M ex GST.
    • (THIS ITEM WAS DEALT WITH BY EXCEPTION EARLIER IN THE MEETING).

    http://www.parkviewgroup.com.au/index.asp does NOT yet have any info; I assume that they are the Park View Group referred to in the Council Minutes.
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    This link is for the REDEVELOPMENT of Brookie – survey:

    http://www.warringah.nsw.gov.au/community/BrookvaleOval.aspx
     
  16. Berkeley_Eagle

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  18. The Wheel

    The Wheel Well-Known Member

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    So the DA has been approved and the tender has been awarded but there is nothing about the commencement of works or when they might be finished
     
  19. HappilyManly

    HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Welcome tn Gov :D
    I think that Parkview may be waiting on the Funds being authorized.
     
  20. Hamster Huey

    Hamster Huey Space Invader Premium Member

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    Has there been any mystery guests appear, that may also enjoy a seat on Council?
     

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