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Experimental kicking rule to be trialled at All Stars

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  1. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Experimental kicking rule to be trialled at All Stars
    http://www.nrl.com/news/latestnews/n...s/default.aspx
    NRL Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:21:00

    The Harvey Norman Rugby League All Stars will again break new ground with an experimental rule designed to promote attacking play from deep within a team’s own half.

    The experimental rule will give the team in possession the opportunity for six more tackles if it kicks and regains the ball in its own half (see full rule below).

    The All Stars will also include a number of special broadcasting changes including on-field microphones relaying the instructions of trainers Wendell Sailor (Learn. Earn. Legend! Indigenous All Stars) and Brad Fittler (NRL All Stars), microphones in team huddles during first and third quarter team talks, a two-way link between the commentators and video referee to allow them to discuss decisions and the possibility of on field interviews with players after scoring plays.

    “This spirit in which this match is played allows us to try a lot of ideas,” NRL Chief Executive, Mr David Gallop, said today.

    “Not surprisingly in this match they all focus on promoting attacking play.

    “Last year we trialled an extra tackle instead in lieu of a conversion and it was a lot of fun.

    “They aren’t necessarily going to end up as rules in the NRL but they do give us an insight into areas that we can look to evolve in the game from time to time.”

    Rule Change: If a player in possession of the ball in his team’s half of the field kicks the ball and it is re-gathered by him or any member of his team, the referee shall signal 6 more tackles for the team in possession provided that -:

    - The ball has traveled at least 5 metres in a forward direction (towards the opponent’s goal line).

    - The kick has reached the point at which the previous play the ball (ruck) took place.

    - The ball is regained by the attacking team prior to the half way mark. If the ball is kicked in the defensive half of the field but is regained in the attacking half, the referee shall not restart the tackle count.
     
  2. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Not a bad rule. I mean its a gamble to kick in your own half but if you have fast wingers and you are trapped on your line with the fullback close by it's worth a shot
     
  3. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Ox would have been awesome at this ! And I'm not being sarcastic. Man I miss the bloke.
     
  4. wombatgc

    wombatgc Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    good to know. I will be there on Sat. I'm so hanging for some footy...experimental, miked up..I don't give a f@ck if the trainers are on donkeys!...just looking forward to the footy. ;)
     
  5. simon_eagle

    simon_eagle Well-Known Member

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    Interesting idea. Don't think they will implement in beyond the trials.
     
  6. Jatz Crackers

    Jatz Crackers Moderator Staff Member

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    Bullet would be better at this.
     
  7. Rusty

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    No offside element to this rule then? Whats to stop one of the wingers waiting on the half way line while the team is struggling to get out of the 20, then you kick up field to him, he gathers and 6 again.
     
  8. TokyoEagle

    TokyoEagle Well-Known Member

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    I am sure the usual offside rules would apply.
     
  9. Rusty

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    I am sure the usual offside rules would apply.

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    Just making the point that the rule as written does not include an offside rule, despite listing the provisions under which the rule stands.

    I agree the offside rule is likely assumed.
     
  10. Rex

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    The experts on this site have ruled that Ox was our greatest liability.  And this was comprehensively proven by our vast improvement last year without him.
     
  11. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I am sure the usual offside rules would apply.

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    Just making the point that the rule as written does not include an offside rule, despite listing the provisions under which the rule stands.

    I agree the offside rule is likely assumed.
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    And why wouldn't the offside rule apply?
     
  12. Berkeley_Eagle

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    can see a return of the chip kick maybe
     
  13. lsz

    lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    If this goes ahead can we bring Phil Blake (for the kids out there the king of the chip and chase...)
     
  14. Brookie4eva

    Brookie4eva Well-Known Member

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    From another forum (yes, I'm a forum slut) -

    "With today's halves, we'd end up going back towards Union – the attacking team would be able to keep the ball for so long. Getting towards the end of the tackle count and just over halfway? 4th tackle run backwards, 5th tackle execute chip kick and regain, instant new tackle count."

    I tend to agree with this point, a good team could end up monopolising the possession, this could lead to boring games and blown out scores.
     
  15. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    well yes and no.

    Read the construct of the rule.

    If you were close to halfway, say 5 metres away on the 4th and ran backwards you would need to kick the ball and regather between the 45th and 50m mark

    "- The kick has reached the point at which the previous play the ball (ruck) took place."

    It would take some skill and co-ordination to get everyone back onside and kick it within a small area. A big risk really because if it bounces forward past halfway, the tackle count does not restart and there is a good chance the other team will get it.

    Whilst I understand your point, they have actually constructed the parameters of the rule quite well.

    It will be fun to see them trying it in the All stars game because it will be a lot of fun. It wouldn't make it to NRL, but it certainly is constructed in a way that makes it a risk to try and still worth while executing
     
  16. Stevo

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    well yes and no.

    Read the construct of the rule.

    If you were close to halfway, say 5 metres away on the 4th and ran backwards you would need to kick the ball and regather between the 45th and 50m mark

    "- The kick has reached the point at which the previous play the ball (ruck) took place."

    It would take some skill and co-ordination to get everyone back onside and kick it within a small area. A big risk really because if it bounces forward past halfway, the tackle count does not restart and there is a good chance the other team will get it.

    Whilst I understand your point, they have actually constructed the parameters of the rule quite well.

    It will be fun to see them trying it in the All stars game because it will be a lot of fun. It wouldn't make it to NRL, but it certainly is constructed in a way that makes it a risk to try and still worth while executing
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    Not only that, but when you are getting closer to the halfway mark the temptation woul be there to try for a 40/20. This rule puts the defending side in two minds as to what tactic you might try. Probably mostly effective around the 30 m mark when your approaching 40/20 range and running out of room to regather. My guess is it would better be used when you're on a bit of a roll but are pinned close to your own sticks!
     
  17. DSM5

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    My thought is that this will only be used in the last couple of minutes of a game if your team is behind by a couple and pinned down there end.  It's a huge risk otherwise. 
     
  18. Stevo

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    Yeah you're probably right mate. It certainly is the new 40/20 though.
     

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