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Dogs and the cap!

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Kevinward777, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. Kevinward777

    Kevinward777 Well-Known Member

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    Whispers regarding the above seem to be getting a little louder. Apparently people that matter are feeling a little nervous about there incessant pilfering and upgrading of current contracts.
     
  2. Normie

    Normie Well-Known Member

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    Well Dalmatians don't change their spots.......
     
  3. the mauler

    the mauler Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Theyl be right, theyve just lost Wright,that should balance the books.
     
  4. Peter C

    Peter C Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that's a real massive loss for them.
     
  5. Moops

    Moops Well-Known Member

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    Surely Barba and Reynolds will need to be upgraded very soon? Barba will command big dollars and Reynold's contract will need to be beefed up as well. Add to that T-Rex next year! How long is Inu going to play for 50,000 bucks a year? Tapau,Finucane and Jackson are all up and comers that other clubs should be looking at...there can't be anything left for them!!! They will need a very good accountant in the next few years...
     
  6. sean1976

    sean1976 Well-Known Member

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    Its a pity they dont include lifting the whole coaching establishment of another club under the salary cap. That alone would put the flea beagles over the cap. Can't develop their own coaching staff let alone playing talent. A joke of a club.
     
  7. castle eagle

    castle eagle Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    its a no brainer.... de$ will back-end everyones contracts to re-sign those he wants to keep and leave just as they are about to come off contract again!
    at least i hope that happens
     
  8. Eagles2nv

    Eagles2nv New Team, New Beginnings 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    All they need is a second set of books. It worked for melbourne ;)

    Kris keating just re-signed for 2 more years. Does that mean dogkinson is heading elsewhere to free up cap. Surely Keating was cheaper than the overs they paid dogkinson.
     
  9. MK Eagle

    MK Eagle Well-Known Member

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    Everything has seemed suspect there for a while even pre mid season international signings & upgrades for players like Reynolds who has gone from bare minimum to $300,000 plus. Throw in the Hodkinson style players they paid massive overs for & it stinks of Storm de ja vu.
    The thing is in 2012 I want Manly to win the GF regardless to rub it in more.
    The fact Storm cheated us out of the 2007 premiership does not help us, we still dont own it in the record books.
    No doubt the Dogs have leapfrogged Storm & Illawarra as my most despised team in the NRL.
     
  10. Manly1973

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    What more is the fact that when players like Reynolds resigns with the poodles or the bunnies no7 has resigned with the club I haven’t read anything about $ value for them,

    But when negotiations were on for our halves paring earlier this year to resign, the papers were all over it and helping to incite fan backlash and increased deals.

    That will do me what a joke.
     
  11. SeaEagleRock8

    SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Foxsports.com. reporting "canterbury-bankstown bulldogs to keep sydney roosters halfback mitchell pearce in their sights". He wouldn't be cheap.
     
  12. voicefromthehill

    voicefromthehill Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Many say the same about our team and still are, hell we even have some of our posters saying all of our players are in the top 5 in their position! But we all keep the faith with our team, and let's be honest many here said the dogs wouldn't make the 8 with their squad.

    Just because they are performing above expectations doesn't mean the players are on overs, some of those guys in the dogs squad mentioned are on minimal contracts. Unless otherwise proven I will believe they are legit, if they aren't I will be vicious in my condemnation.
     
  13. Mals

    Mals Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Yep the quality of a Great Wall ute but at a BMW price tag.
     
  14. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I'd say our roster is worth more than theirs. Our whole backline except for Tafua have represented their country. Our starting forward back are all internationals or SOO players. We shouldn't be casting too many stones
     
  15. MWSE

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    Agreed. The mongrels roster really isn't all that talented (outside of Barba). Desmond has them playing out of their skins. They are like a team of misfits that has been pulled together.
     
  16. Kevinward777

    Kevinward777 Well-Known Member

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    Look at how many players we have let go during our premiership run from 2007. We also have many more players who have been with us for 8 plus years entitled to discounts. The players themselves often claim they stay for less than what they could get elsewhere, stating lifestyle and comraderie. The Dogs paid overs for a lot of their roster eg Josh Morris, Dogkinson, Pritchard, Tolman, Stagg, Ennis to atttract them to a club that at the time was pathetic. Much like the current Eels.

    So the Dogs currently look something like this

    1Barba-big money over the next few years
    2Turner-re signed
    3Inu-big upgrade from current$50 000/Lafai-upgraded
    4Morris-on big $
    5Perret(and his brother)signed mid year on 4 year deal
    6Reynolds-will command a BIG upgrade
    7Kris Keating(upgraded on a 2 year deal)/Dogkinson $275000
    8Graham-on BIG $
    9Ennis-on big $
    10Kasiano-upgraded on new 3 year deal
    11Pritchard-BIG $ signing
    12Halatau-Re signed decent coin
    13Stagg-was signed on big $ yet to be re signed

    14Tolman-Big $ signing from Storm
    15Eastwood-Big $ signing from UK Super League
    16-Payne-???
    18-Finnucane
    19-Gavet(Des told me to sign with the Bulldogs a year before he got their)
    20-Tapau
    21-Jackson
    22-Lafai
    23-Dogkinson
    24-Mitch Browne(another mid season signing)
    25-T Rex on reported $650 000 contract
    there are a few others but I couldn't be bothered straining my brain.

    Unfortunately the geographic location of Belmore can't be used as a reason for wanting to go to the Dog's......they got Des to coach their but he sure as hell won't be moving their!
     
  17. swoop

    swoop Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    T-rex signed apparently for 600k
    INU- paid 50k this year then 200k+ next two seasons
    Sam Perrett as above but not on a contract as big as Inu.
    Kasiano resigned recently for a reported 400k per year
    Halatau re-signed must be getting at least 200k
    Keating re-signed for another 2 years on about 150k

    The you've got Barba, who would command top dollar, Reynolds will probably test the market but his value would have skyrocketed, then you've got the likes of Graham, Tolman, Pritchard and Eniss.

    They are linked to just about every player that's off-contract.

    We keep hearing that there are 12 players off-contract but they have to re-sign 2 or 3 of them. I suppose time will tell.
     
  18. StuBoot

    StuBoot Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    The salary cap juggle is something us mere mortals can't even begin to comprehend. Reynolds, Finucane, Jackson etc would be on base deals at best, depends on how long their current deals are as to what pressure it puts on their cap down the track. Ennis, Eastwood, Stagg cant command the money that theyre on now in the future. That plus any success / injuries etc that comes their way. It's always easier at contract talk time if you're a premiership winner - and none of them are yet!
    Just one persons thoughts and speculation which is what this forum runs on.
     
  19. Normie

    Normie Well-Known Member

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    Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah!
     
  20. StuBoot

    StuBoot Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Exactly Normie.
     
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