Does what we see today stem from the debacle created by Ha$$ler?? He become a problem once he became bigger than the club in his own mind. Knew he was leaving & began the backended contracts & poaching that caused the initial internal bleeding that imo, has never really stopped. Its a cruel world with the loyal Tooveys head is on the chopping block & Hasler slides under the carpet of dishonesty & betrayal, watching the circus unfold - largely due to the dagger he slipped in from behind. There's plenty of people who can choose to smother this with calls of poor player negotiations, greed ect, but the fact is, this was a harmonious club before that crap went down & Des was the catalyst.