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Comparable Side to 1996.

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Ryan, Jan 19, 2006.

  1. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking how dominant our 1996 team were in that Grand Final win over St George. I thought in today's players, who would be comparable to that team at the time. This is what I came up with:-

    01. Matt Ridge.................Brett Hodgson
    02. Danny Moore.............Pat Richards
    03. Terry Hill...................Jamaal Lolesi
    04. Craig Innes...............Paul Whatuera
    05. John Hopoate............Matt Utai
    06. Nick Kosef.................Braith Anasta
    07. Geoff Toovey.............Matt Orford
    08. David Gillespie..........Danny Nutley
    09. Jim Serdaris...............Robbie Farrah
    10. Tony Carroll...............Willie Mason
    11. Daniel Gartner...........Craig Fitzgibbon
    12. Owen Cunnigham......Andrew Ryan
    13. Steve Menzies...........Steve Menzies


    14. Cliff Lyons..................Craig Gower
    15. Neil Tierney...............John Skandalis
    16. Craig Hancock...........Steven Bell
    17. Des Hasler.................Craig Wing

    I tried to pick on size, style, impact & positional play.

    Sorry I got the names wrong. What would you guys change?

    I think the dead ringers are:-

    Richards / Moore
    Beaver / Beaver (of coarse - derrr)
    Kosef / Anasta
    Farrah / Serdaris
    Hoppa / Utai
     
  2. The Fonz

    The Fonz Member

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    **** man, do you do anything at work?
     
  3. Fluffy

    Fluffy Well-Known Member

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    tony carrol is the brisbane wanker

    your after mark
     
  4. Crushercleal

    Crushercleal Active Member

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    Nice exercise there Ryan. A couple of things if I may:
    1. Sorry, you can't compare Lolesi to Hill. Hill in '96 was the most dominant centre in the game. Lolesi is a nobody who has done nothing. Hill would be close to Gasnier.
    2. I know you meant Mark Carroll. I'd say he's more like Riles or Bailey, rather than Nutley. Carroll was also the best prop in the game back then.
     
  5. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm. I don't think Hill's style was like Gasnier. I thought of putting Gasnier in, but Gasnier is a finesse centre, built on speed. I've always thought of Hill as a power centre, with leadership skills.

    LoL about Carrolls name. Remember - I was a Bears fan, so I was really straining my memory on the names...Sorry fellas. I agree with you on this one though. Carroll was just ruthless and damaging - more like Bailey I think.
     
  6. Crushercleal

    Crushercleal Active Member

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    OK, with comparing Hill to Gasnier, I was meaning more status-wise than playing method (ie they were/are both great). On your basis, I'd compare him more to Ben Smith or something - I just can't compare him to Lolesi.
     
  7. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    I used to hate Terry Hill (as a player) with a passion as a Bears supporter. He was just sooo good. Much like in my opinion Tahu is today.
     
  8. Disco

    Disco Well-Known Member

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    I dont reckon Gower and Lyons are compatable either

    i'd say more.........sh*t nobody really compares to cliffy, maybe Campbell
     
  9. Disco

    Disco Well-Known Member

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    Nor ridge and Hodgson
     
  10. Crushercleal

    Crushercleal Active Member

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    I'd say Ridge and Hodgson ARE comparable. Both excellent goal kickers, both small but played smart, both good backing up when a break has been made by a teamate (Hodgson better at this), both sound defensively (but Ridge better). HOW GOOD WAS RIDGE !!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  11. Disco

    Disco Well-Known Member

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    This is tough but i'd go (the brackets explain the kind of player needed to compare to the manly great)

    01. Matt Ridge.................Ben Hornby (tough one, safe, marshells the troops and can be a playmaker if needed)
    02. Danny Moore.............Pat Richards (big and safe)
    03. Terry Hill...................Shaun Berrigan (tough, whole runner, great defender)
    04. Craig Innes...............Jamie Lyon (great centre)
    05. John Hopoate............Matt Utai (bulldozing winger)
    06. Nick Kosef.................Jason Smith (maybe a younger smith, but all class, seemingly endless time with the ball)
    07. Geoff Toovey.............Graig Gower (tough leader)
    08. David Gillespie..........Danny Nutley (reliable and hardworking)
    09. Jim Serdaris...............Robbie Farrah (creative and tough)
    10. Mark Carroll...............Ryles (but only on ryles best day, Carroll did Ryles best day everyday)
    11. Daniel Gartner...........Craig Fitzgibbon (workhorse with that touch of class)
    12. Owen Cunnigham......hmmm let me think
    13. Steve Menzies...........Steve Menzies (god himself could not compare)


    14. Cliff Lyons..................Preston Campbell (but only because there is nobody good enough to really compare)
    15. Neil Tierney...............John Skandalis (consistant, good value)
    16. Craig Hancock...........Paul Bowman (reliable)
    17. Des Hasler.................Hmmm let me think on that one
     
  12. byso

    byso Well-Known Member

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    17..........Jye Mullane!
     
  13. Nutzcraw

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    ryan loves his team line up's don't he hahaha

    keep it going champ
     
  14. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    It's like Disco said though, imagine this side today:-

    01. Ben Hornby
    02. Pat Richards
    03. Shaun Berrigan
    04. Jamie Lyon
    05. Matt Utai
    06. Jason Smith
    07. Graig Gower
    08. Danny Nutley
    09. Robbie Farrah
    10. Jason Ryles
    11. Craig Fitzgibbon
    12.
    13. Steve Menzies

    14. Preston Campbell
    15. John Skandalis
    16. Paul Bowman
    17.
     
  15. Stuey Davis Socks

    Stuey Davis Socks Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Terry Hill = a younger Darren Smith
     
  16. Canteen Worker

    Canteen Worker Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Great post Ryan and some good discussion.

    One thing you can't get on paper though is chemistry and the 96 side certaiinly had it via a couple of years together with not too many injuries and a great coach in Bozo. The leadership of Ridge and Toovey was very important to that Manly side.

    It is a real shame that we only got one permiership out of this side when it deserved to be three!
     

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