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Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Dessy, Aug 2, 2010.

  1. Dessy

    Dessy Active Member

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    I really think it's time to make a few minor adjustments to get this team motivated and firing again. Perry has to go, or at least be demoted to the bench. Cross has to come into the side. As posted on the other thread, he has shown passion in the jersey, where some players obviously haven't. Swap him for Bailey and have 3 props on the bench with more rotations, and shorter, sharper bursts from our props. Get some energy back into the team. In the previous two weeks Manly were playing on the back of a bagging from the press and they came out and respnded well. Des needs to change things up a bit and hopefully we will get another burst of "energy" from our group, especially our forwards.
    I couldn't stand losing to Melbourne on our own patch next week.
    C'mon boys. Your season is on the line!!! Play with some heart!!!
     
  2. mr seagles

    mr seagles New Member

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    we wont win another game this year not on that rubbish tonight....storm will smash us just for fun.....
     
  3. dowdz

    dowdz Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Have to agree with you on Perry and Cross. The boys really do need to find some heart and play for each other and our great club. Get players out there who want to win for the club and themselves. I hate mid year signings.
     
  4. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully Farrar is good. Could we go with:-

    01. Ben Farrar (or Denis Sandow)
    02. Micheal Robertson
    03. Steve Matai
    04. Jamie Lyon
    05. Dean Whare
    06. Keiran Foran
    07. Trent Hodkinson
    08. Jason King
    09. Matt Ballin
    10. Brent Kite
    11. Anthony Watmough
    12. Shane Rodney
    13. Glenn Stewart

    14. Tony Williams
    15. George Rose
    16. Matt Cross
    17. Joe Galuvao
     
  5. bob dylan

    bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Farrer and Matai must be in severe doubt.

    Ryan, I am pretty sure Sandow cant play NRL
     
  6. bob dylan

    bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    01. Michael Robertson
    02. Tony Williams (open to suggestions)
    03. Steve Matai
    04. Keiran Foran
    05. Dean Whare
    06. Jamie Lyon
    07. Trent Hodkinson
    08. Jason King
    09. Matt Ballin
    10. Brent Kite
    11. Anthony Watmough
    12. Shane Rodney
    13. Glenn Stewart

    14. Chris Bailey (open to suggestions)
    15. Josh Perry
    16. Matt Cross
    17. Joe Galuvao


    Howl me down about putting Lyon at 6, but the facts are;

    1 He is not getting the ball enough

    2 He played a major part in our premiership success in 2008 from 6
     
  7. dowdz

    dowdz Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Won't howl you down but i am not sure Lyon wants to play at 5/8. Unless that was just for origin.
     
  8. bob dylan

    bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    You may well right.  And I think there are plenty of unhappy players in our team.

    Especially the bench guys who continue to get almost no game time wit the exception of Rose.  I bet Gulavao and Cross wish they had never come to Manly and and I am sure Bailey cant wait to get out of the place.
     
  9. dowdz

    dowdz Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    You may well right.  And I think there are plenty of unhappy players in our team.

    Especially the bench guys who continue to get almost no game time wit the exception of Rose.  I bet Gulavao and Cross wish they had never come to Manly and and I am sure Bailey cant wait to get out of the place.
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    Think you may be right with that. With some of our perfomances i dont understand how Cross and Gulavao dont get more time. Cross was good when he was on and Joe goes hard each time he plays.
     
  10. Seaeagle63

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    Kite in the run on side, Trex to 2nd row, Choc to the bench or Queensland Cup.
     
  11. King

    King Active Member

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    Tony Williams needs someone to stick a fire-cracker up his arse. The guy is too care free and just lazy. If Brett Stewart or David Williams were available he wouldn't be in the 17.

    Josh Perry is finished. I don't know how he is still starting.

    George Rose is carrying way too many Kg's and providing zero impact from the bench he needs to be dropped for Matt Cross.

    Anthony Watmough needs to lift his game.

    I think everybody agrees the forwards, mainly the Props are carrying too much weight and look tired and lazy.

    1. Robertson
    2. Williams (unfortunately the big useless one - Tony)
    3. Lyon
    4. Matai
    5. Whare
    6. Foran
    7. Hodkinson
    8. King
    9. Ballin
    10. Kite
    11. Watmough
    12. Rodney
    13. Stewart

    14. Cross
    15. Perry
    16. Gulavao
    17. Bailey
     
  12. bob dylan

    bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    By the look of our suggested teams I have come to the conclusion we just don't have the players to be competitive.

    The "new" players Seu Seu, Cross and Galavao were a waste of money and have added zero to our side.

    The loss of Stewart (again) and Wolfman has depleted our side of any speedsters and real try scorers.

    The loss of players for next year such as Perry and Hoddo has seen them lose all form and interest.

    The inability to re-sign stars like Matai and Foran has also done nothing for the moral of these guys nor their team-mates. 

    Add the loss of form by two of our stars,Watmough (who has been close to useless) and G Stewart (who had a real slow start to the year) and lack of improvement by Rose and T. Williams and its no wonder we are struggling to make the top in a very weak comp.
     
  13. mr seagles

    mr seagles New Member

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    queensland cup side is winning try some changes with them....
     
  14. ayjay007

    ayjay007 Well-Known Member

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    I agree about Perry.He's going to supper league next year,and last night after thanking the Newcastle fans for turning up,said he wouldn't mind being back there one day!!!Perry and Dogkinson=dropped to QLD team.
     
  15. Fro

    Fro Well-Known Member

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    i'll bet lefty it will be the same 1 - 17 barring injury.
     
  16. The Who

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    George Rose has been a favourite of mine - but how he is being picked when grossly overweight is inexcusable.
    Perry is well past his best.
    T-Rex must be tried in another position. But where? We never replace our second rowers?
    There is not enough pace or creativity in the backs. Try someone else.
    Our kicking game is hopeless.
    For me only Ballin, Lyon, Robertson, Matai and Rodney seem to perform consistently. The others are so hit and miss it's impossible to think that they can string together 4-5 wins in a row to win a comp.
     
  17. Fro

    Fro Well-Known Member

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    Did i say it was right Barry?

    It's not, the selections this year have been diabolical, but thats the way it is
     
  18. Jatz Crackers

    Jatz Crackers Moderator Staff Member

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    Totally agree with the original poster and mostly agree with Ryans YART.

    You cant just chuck the coach and you cant just make wholesale changes with 5 games to go to the finals (insert pic of pork chop here). But this team does need change & that change has to be motivational and has to be in the forwards. So, drop perry and promote Kite to run on side. Give Kite a reason to lead with King.

    If we want to shake things up further and if we are going to continue with the current style of play we have had since 2006 then put Cross in the backrow (ala Hall 07-08) with Stewart and Rodney & drop Choc to bench. He will hate it but maybe thats whats needed.

    Unfortunately, Williams cant just be plucked from the backline and transported into the forwards. He will need an off season to make the change.
     
     
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    lol ryan  what happend to matai in the backrow..
     
  20. bob dylan

    bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I am buggered if I can see how anyone thinks this guy can be a forward.

    He is slow and shows no enthusiasm. Probably fits in with the current pack I admit.

    His tackling technique is dreadful.

    He runs the ball back at half pace most of the time.

    He cannot pass the ball at all.

    And finally which backrower is he replacing Watmough, Stewart or Rodney??
     

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