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Catch and pass, catch and pass, feet in sand

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Dan, Sep 5, 2016.

  1. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    When did someone look at our team sheet and say "oh the best thing for us, with a guy like DCE in the team, is to make him be a catch and pass pivot!"?

    What we will do is we will have no real shape and no real go forward or idea what to do, then rather than having even one half that wants to take on the line, run and keep the defense moving, rather than having forwards that roll forward, get up and play the ball quickly, what we will do is have forwards that lumber toward the line, bunch a whole lot of blokes that have SFA what they are doing around the ball, plant DCE as first receiver and then just stare blankly at him whilst our feet are planted in the sand and just watch him catch and pass without moving his feet, thats a solid idea!

    So it really has nothing to do with skill level, its either poor coaching, or a bunch of guys who really don't give a **** or are completely clueless and dumbfounded by the situation.

    The Turbos go back to their trusty Jake to Tom inside and Tom gets smashed everytime because everyone knows to watch Tom.

    It is just so tragically horrific and predictable to watch, right they are playing the ball, either Lewis Brown is going to aimlessly run from dumby-half directly at the only marker who IS onside, or we are going to pass to DCE who is either going to pass the ball immediately, kick it or maybe take 3 steps.

    It's not DCE's fault either he tries and tries often, but he has nothing going on around him, the only time there looks to be spark is when he has Ferris or one of the Turbo's around him.

    Parcell adds spark and I would keep him, but honestly I can't pick a decent worthy player from the rest of them, not one.

    We look horrible out there in every way shape and form, nothing in attack and less in defense, and sloppy penalties that don't need to be blown. The attitude is horrible and the general game plan either gets torn up within minutes or is non-existent.

    Beaver shared a great story in his book, about bozo having a fine system for players that were caught walking in the game, for every time they walked they were fined $5 or something trivial. Hoppa disputed it once and came out of the replay with an extra $20 in fines or something.

    This team could benefit from that, the amount of times they walk and show weakness and show how unenthusiastic they are is atrocious, they dont run to the next play, they don't know what the next play is and they look at each other wondering WTF is going on.

    Its just horrible, there is nothing that resembles a team out there, week in week out and there is nothing that I can see would make a team from the people running out each week. There is so much work that needs to be done in so many areas but I can't pick anyone who looks like they want to do the work.

    For those who think Jake T should be captain, think back to the Canberra game when Turbo's try was pulled up for a forward pass.... his argument was not that it was back and he was kidding and that he owes us one now it was "Do you know how hard it is to throw that backwards?"
    Yeah Jake, not up here for thinking buddy are we, you just told him you got us he did throw it forward, good job in pulling that up!

    Being humble does not make you a good captain, thats not the point, not even close to the point, it helps in some situations, but this team does not need a quiet in the shadows humble leader, thats what teams of superstars need. We need a lead by example, stick a rocket up them and make superstards leader, and I don't see that in our team right now.

    This was a horrible year. I wont say our worst as I remember some pretty lean and disgusting years, but this was one of the most disappointing years that I have watched, we didn't improve as the season went on, and there were few if any games I felt we could win. I give it a 1 out 10, I hope the off season is better and we name some signings that will help us move forward and become a team again, right now I don't know who we can sign to do that, because we need players in so many key positions that there may not be a way out within one off season, juniors are not the answer either. Strap yourselves in, i would say we are another 2 years from being in the finals and a good 5 or more until we get close to the pie again.

    To top it off, now I have the European winter to look forward to!
     
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  2. manlyfan76

    manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Dan i know you own this site, however honest and informed opinions based on the hard facts are not welcome. You must say that DCE is not worth 1 million per year.
     
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  3. manlyfan76

    manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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  4. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Right now he isnt, but the entire team around him right now isn't worth it combined either.

    They give him less options than a russian built car
     
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  5. manlyfan76

    manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I bet if you sat down every player 1-25 today and asked them each what their role in the team was that maybe five would know.
    I said five because some are so clueless they would belive they knew when they didnt.
     
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  6. Moondog

    Moondog Grey-beard loon Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I've felt like I've been watching a team of strangers all season who (with a few exceptions) would probably like to win but at the end of the day are not too fussed when they lose.
     
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  7. Mark from Brisbane

    Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

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    Unless there are some serious changes all we can expect is much the same in 2017.

    But it's a long way to go before kick off so who knows what the run out team will be.

    But sadly there's a few that will still be there, that won't change a thing!!
     
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  8. COMMANDER

    COMMANDER IF YOU DO NOT TRY YOU CAN NOT FAIL 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    If you don't have the cattle the very least you can do is learn how to tackle. If the other team isn't scoring many points your chances of winning increase by a factor of 10!

    You don't need talent to be able to defend well, that's something that can be coached, but wasn't.

    A smart first year coach would have addressed our appalling defensive efforts from the previous year.
     
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  9. manlyfan76

    manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Yes you can build much upon your defense.
     
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  10. nightster

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    the only times we looked led and played with some direction was when Jamie Lyon played 5/8 .... god I hope Blake Green is as good as I think he can be ... Lewis Brown was god aweful last night at centre .... DCE was like a headless chook, Parcell was disappointing but the terribly slow play the balls and crap defense that allowed their forwards so many metres certainly made the dummy half job really difficult ... can we have a real coach .... please!
     
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  12. Ron E. Gibbs

    Ron E. Gibbs Well-Known Member

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    Sadly, Mark, I think there will be some serious changes for pretty much the same result. Seems like we're going to try the same "clean out" approach with the players, bring in a whole bunch of new faces with questionable ability, and hope that they'll magically gel into a decent team - and do it in a hurry. Dan's post is on the money: there ain't no quick fix to look forward to. Zorba and his millions better start spinning the "long haul" angle to keep our expectations low.
     
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  13. Ralphie

    Ralphie Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Maybe if DCE wasn't consuming so much of the salary cap we could have bought some quality to play beside him......just sayin.......
     
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  14. fLIP

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    I've got a plan for 2018 I'm thinking of emailing to Kelly.

    What we should do is go hard into the market over this off season and buy everyone on ridiculous overs. Force releases from other clubs all kinds of sheet.

    Then next year we notify nrl we are over the cap and it was deliberate. Then we release our hooker and are all good to go hard at the 2018 premiership. 2017 can be a bonding experience for all our new recruits.

    Might get on to him about that now actually.
     
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  15. TerryRandall

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    Yesterday was a shocker but its hard playing for nothing against a pretty handy side in the last round of the comp. But I agree, the lack of any discernible structure or plan is troubling. I agree about Jake as Captain - too meek and mild - too much like the coach. If this team had a BK type leader they would be transformed I reckon. We need decent centres and a constructive playmaker to steer the side around. And a hard-arsed forward leader (someone like Nate Myles but opposite). Walker and Matai are a decent centre pairing, and Blake Green looks like the steadying influence we need. Just need a BK and we are sorted. I have never been a big fan of DCE - his elevation to 10 year franchise player now seems like a millstone around our necks.
     
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  16. TerryRandall

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    I like it, but can we keep the hooker and release the half-back instead?
     
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  17. Ralphie

    Ralphie Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    A genuine honest question Dan, what do you think was the game plan last night because all season I have tried to work it out each game & I've come up empty. I need help to identify what it was last night please.
     
  18. Little Grubber Kick

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    and I can't imagine too many top liners willing to go to a club where they get paid HALF (or less) what a nearly top liner gets

    just sayin!
     
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  19. court83

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    this team has honestly reminded me of the nsw side of the last decade..
    we have some really good players, but its like they have never trained together, have no set plays, no structure at all... we look like someone has picked a bunch of guys, put em on the park for half an hour before kick off and thought "that'll do"
     
  20. nightster

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    ... another Bozo brainwave
     
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