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KNUCKLES
weights before dates
Demetriou is hardly a proven centre.. He did well in u20s.. Hardly at nrl level.. Although yes I agree with you otherwise we have many players that can cover various positions which should put us in good stead of injuries occur
Bearfax
Grizzly old fart
Could be the next Noel Cleal in a year or two except Demetriou is faster. Definitely better in forwards but needs to get fitter
HoldenV8
Journey Man
Most of the NRL centres would run rings around Demetriou. Other than the fact that unlike in the U/20's they can actually tackle, most would leave him for dead on pace. I shudder to think what players like Michael Jennings, Josh Morris or Dean Whare would do against him out wide.
In time I can see him becoming a forward in the NRL, but not a centre.
In time I can see him becoming a forward in the NRL, but not a centre.
pjayz
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Bozo isn't stupid; he is ruthless, but not stupid. If Hiku is going he has a plan to bring others in, whether that is Walker plus Whare or someone else.
Manly have taken an approach we haven't seen in the NRL for a very long time. Slow rebuilds cost money. Poor performances dragged out over 2-3-5 yrs result in lost sponsorship, gate takings and memberships, which is something the club just can't afford. They are treating this like a corporate takeover - aggressive, ruthless, and quick. If it drags out too long like most rebuilds, it can become a slippery slope where losing becomes a habit - just look at Parra after their winning era of the 80's, they just never recovered.
I don't like seeing Ballin, Gutherson and Hiku (if he does go) sign new contracts in good faith just to be told soon after that they are not wanted before they even get to start their new contract - morally, it sucks. It might be completely right from a team personnel and direction perspective, but it is still sad to see. That is the trade-off for the benefits we get of a quick rebuild - for some that is acceptable, for others it isn't. Regardless, I see us returning very quickly to the top for another decade of dominance. I just wish those three players great success in their new clubs.
Manly have taken an approach we haven't seen in the NRL for a very long time. Slow rebuilds cost money. Poor performances dragged out over 2-3-5 yrs result in lost sponsorship, gate takings and memberships, which is something the club just can't afford. They are treating this like a corporate takeover - aggressive, ruthless, and quick. If it drags out too long like most rebuilds, it can become a slippery slope where losing becomes a habit - just look at Parra after their winning era of the 80's, they just never recovered.
I don't like seeing Ballin, Gutherson and Hiku (if he does go) sign new contracts in good faith just to be told soon after that they are not wanted before they even get to start their new contract - morally, it sucks. It might be completely right from a team personnel and direction perspective, but it is still sad to see. That is the trade-off for the benefits we get of a quick rebuild - for some that is acceptable, for others it isn't. Regardless, I see us returning very quickly to the top for another decade of dominance. I just wish those three players great success in their new clubs.
Loobs
Living in the demountable.
His future lies in the Ruben Wiki centre to prop move, but instead of that happening over a decade in first grade it should happen now.
Some of those players I wouldn't have here, Green etc. Where is 'Mr Shoulder Tapper', ??? How is Williame still here ???? And we are talking of maybe offloading Hiku and others
I don't know why Goodall is back but If you have watched Goodall's games he is best suited for the forwards, I can't see him playing first grade, too many mistakes and can't tackle. Struggles with fitness big time / attitude and was cut from the club here and Parra
Demetriou is a forward, not a centre, he will struggle big time in the centres if he ever played first grade, he was struggling playing against some of the better teams in the u20s at centre and got shown up, he can't keep up with the pace. I love his mongrel , but again he has fitness issues and even in the forwards at this stage he would struggle and would get smashed
There is depth to cover the fullback in Tommy T which is his position. Some of the centres can be covered by juggling some of your better players there, but the club does not have a specialised winger. Even Taufua is not a real winger but another centre / backrower
You can't just throw anyone there and think that will do, just like you can't throw anyone there to play fullback. You have to know what your doing and obviously have all the quick, explosive skills, catching, defence, communication etc and nowadays they run the ball up quickly like another forward to give the forwards a rest and use their speed and strength to make the breaks etc. as they know their job well and will add plenty of speed into our backline, which we don't have compared to the other teams
We have good forwards now, but we will struggle outwide on the edges this season with plenty of tries scored by the fast opposition on our edges, our defence is poor outwide as well with pressure under the high bombs
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HoldenV8
Journey Man
Can't argue with that. As a forward he'd do ok but most of the NRL centres would have a field day against him.
Think most forwards would as well.
Stevo
First Grader
Shane? Is that you??
HoldenV8
Journey Man
That's why I said he would in time. Right now it would be like lambs to the slaughter. Give him a season or 2 (or 3) in NSW Cup to see how he handles it before throwing him to the wolves.
Agree, let's face it he's still a fatty right now. 2 seasons minimum to condition him.
HoldenV8
Journey Man
And lets not forget that Demetriou was only put into the centres in the first place when Luke Garner got injured earlier this year. It just worked out better for the team leaving Demetriou in the backs with Garner moving to the back row when he returned.
Yes Demetriou did some powerhouse running in the centres, but that was up against kids sometimes over 20 kg's lighter than him and not even close to fully developed. And lets face it, the NYC isn't going to be remembered for its great emphasis on defense.
I'm not trying to bag the kid. All I am saying is that in the long run Demetriou is going to be a forward, probably a front rower and I don't think he should even be considered for a position in the first grade backline unless its to do what T-Red was forced into a few times this season, a stop gap for an in-game injury. Give him time to develop.
Yes Demetriou did some powerhouse running in the centres, but that was up against kids sometimes over 20 kg's lighter than him and not even close to fully developed. And lets face it, the NYC isn't going to be remembered for its great emphasis on defense.
I'm not trying to bag the kid. All I am saying is that in the long run Demetriou is going to be a forward, probably a front rower and I don't think he should even be considered for a position in the first grade backline unless its to do what T-Red was forced into a few times this season, a stop gap for an in-game injury. Give him time to develop.
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manlyfan76
There is no A.I. Just better computers
Too damn cryptic!!!!
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