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Back ended contracts

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Woodsie, Aug 17, 2016.

  1. Woodsie

    Woodsie played strong, done good.

    +4,406 / 91
    @Andrew.. I have re-posted this discussion to its own thread because I think it is relevant today with regards to your comments re the Turbo bros upgrades.

    A while ago when somebody was bagging Dessie for leaving us with the burden of a few back ended contracts, I said that I believe that they are a legal and viable strategy.

    If timed properly with the right personnel they allow you a window of several years to construct a team well in excess of the salary cap limit. It may be the only way clubs like us can combat the TPA rich clubs.

    If the result is 1 or 2 premierships, is the inevitable downside of several years in the wilderness worthwhile.
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  2. lsz

    lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +3,550 / 64
    Woodsie do not discount front ended contracts as well. I would suggest there are very few clubs that pay their players an equal amount for each year of their contract (which is why the whole placing value on players is a pointless exercise)
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  3. Ben

    Ben Well-Known Member

    +462 / 42
    Then the next coach in line during the back ended deal would have to be a sacrificial coach for 3 years until the books balance back out again.
    Tooves really did an outstanding job concidering.
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  4. Woodsie

    Woodsie played strong, done good.

    +4,406 / 91
    Agree, to be successful you may need a combination of front and rear loading.

    It will be an interesting test of the NRL's player value policy if they allow the current NZ captain and a $1.3 million dollar player to sign for the Warriors on a $200 grand incentive contract.
  5. Andrew..

    Andrew.. Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +1,750 / 22
    I know some get upset over back ended contracts, especially if you fall short in your window of opportunity. So whilst it may sting to be out of finals contention for a couple of years, I wouldn't swap a single thing for those memories and the success we enjoyed.
    Whatever else comes we are carved in the history books. How many others would give anything for that success ?
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  6. Ralphie

    Ralphie Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Front or rear loading is perfectly acceptable these days. Who am I to judge.@:blush:
  7. manlyfan76

    manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    Anywhere but Parramatta
    +5,131 / 99
    A club like the titans who were way under the cap could pay a player like Hayne a big part of their cap for the remainder of 2016, then bugger all in 2017 then more then 1.2 in 2018, thus being both back and front enders.
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  8. Fluffy

    Fluffy Well-Known Member

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    They also singed Peats mid season for about 600K per year and Hurrel on big money so must have been 2M under or possibly Toddy has guaranteed some TPA's
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  9. StuBoot

    StuBoot Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I'd say that the Warriors are paying some of Hurrell's dosh still.
    Most mid season releases would have some sort of residual with their former club - it's generally a win-win.
    The new club gets him cheaper than market value and the old club gets rid of a problem.
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  10. Class of 96

    Class of 96 Active Member

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    And then we have Hoppa Snr, who has a completely different definition of a back-ended contract.
    Hoppa Snr.jpeg
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  11. The Who

    The Who Well-Known Member

    Mona Vale
    +4,718 / 96
    One thing is clear: you should keep some space in the salary cap for mid-seasons transfers where you can pick up some bargain buys. The Titans did it this year, and look like playing finals football with three such purchases.
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