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Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Matabele, Jul 8, 2006.

  1. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    Maybe tonight enhanced your understanding of the difference between potential realised and an eternity of mediocre talent spent running around in concentric circles.

    I refer of course to Orford and Messiahan respectively.
     
  2. Nutzcraw

    Nutzcraw Active Member

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    :violin: :violin: :violin: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:
     
  3. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    As it was all Monaghans fault when Orford was going bad coz of his pass, then alternatively it must have all been down to an improved pass from Monaghan last night :p

    1 thing i found a bit weird. Orford was in top form pre rep season, got to City/Country and fell apart under the pressure of being a chance, then the very week after all that pressue is gone, and rep season is over, he gets right back to top form. He is a bit of an enigma in that regard
     
  4. PEPSI

    PEPSI Active Member

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    also coincides with a leg injury which , as you would have seen last night as he was back goal kicking, he seems to have overcome.
     
  5. Fluffy

    Fluffy Well-Known Member

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    hey genius - i never said orford wasnt better than monas - i just said we will pay overs for what we get - so far im right
     
  6. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Guys - we won...lets give ALL the players, and each other a rest eh?

    By the way - thought Monnas had an outstanding game. He was rewarded with a lot of game time. We seemed to hold our defensive and attacking structure more when he was on.

    Monaghan, Williamson, Dunley all on at the same time was interesting. I think it showed as well, as we seemed to drop off in structure at the back end of the game.
     
  7. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    We get better value out of our halfback than we get out of our hooker.

    The only positive about our hooker is his defence. Everything else puts him outside the top 10 of hookers in this competition - even though he is the highest priced.
     
  8. Nutzcraw

    Nutzcraw Active Member

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    Name the 10 hookers ahead of him Mata
     
  9. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    buderus
    Priddis
    Smith
    Payne
    PJ Smith
    Riddell
    Young
    Wing
    Woolford
    Berrigan
    Fien
    Farrah
     
  10. Garts

    Garts Well-Known Member

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    All those players you mentioned are not playing better than Monas and some arnt even playing Hooker.
     
  11. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    I give up on arguing the Monaghan issue. If you fools can put up with his one dimensional passing and crowding of players, so be it.

    The only positives he brings are enthusiasm and defence but they're not enough to make up for the poor service and woeful kicks he is prone to give.

    Carry on.
     
  12. Nutzcraw

    Nutzcraw Active Member

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    In bold = Worse hookers than mona's

    In Italics = Not even hookers
     
  13. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    PJ Marsh and Fien have both played origin. Riddell has played City.

    Young, Wing and Berrigan are often used at hooker for their clubs.

    Regardless - on your own admission Monaghan is 7th, but he's the highest paid in that list.

    Orford might be the 4th best halfback but he's also the 4th best paid.

    Next.
     
  14. Downie

    Downie Active Member

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    Finch played Origin!

    I'm not trying to argue against you, as (in terms of service from dummy-half), Monaghan doesn't rate up there with the best hookers, but the Origin point isn't a valid arguement in some cases. I would rate Monas ahead of Marsh and thereabouts with Fien (again, in terms of service. He's a better defender and general play kicker)
     
  15. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    buderus - Full time Hooker
    Priddis - Full time Hooker
    Smith - Full time Hooker
    Payne - Full time Hooker
    PJ Marsh - Full time interchange Hooker
    Riddell - Full Time Hooker
    Young - Full time Hooker
    Wing - Known as best interchange Hooker in game
    Woolford - Full time Hooker
    Berrigan - Currently playing Hooker
    Fien - Currently playing Hooker
    Farrah - Full time Hooker

    Put it this way guys - if any of the above players were signed for us in 07 for say $150k $200k next year in place of Monaghan, which players would you not choose over him?

    I personally would take ANY of those Hookers in front of Monaghan. To that end, even teams second tier Hookers are up there with Monnas:-

    Gattis
    That new gun Hooker for Penrith

    etc etc....

    I can see what your saying Mata.
     
  16. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    KaZa Well-Known Member

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    your a bit sheepish Ryan.

    Anyway.. in regards to Monas.. why must you guys bash him when he plays well? He had a great game and i guess since Orford played well Monas must of had a blinder... or is it only when Orford plays bad that Monas plays bad...

    His defence was awesome. saved a nice grubber with good hands to pick it up. Praise the bloke.. who cares what hes on.. its our fault for paying him.. dont punish him for it.
     
  18. byso

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    hahaha, I've told you many times that I never said Monas was better than The Ox. But it's good you bring these threads out after he's had a top game. Which is twice now I believe :)

    What happened to this thread over the 3 previous games. Anyhow didn't Monas win MOM against the Roosters at Aussie stadium last year? ;)
     
  19. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

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    I think the point is consistency people. If Monaghan was consistently good, we'd all be happy as Larry.
     
  20. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    I think the point is consistency people. If Monaghan was consistently good, we'd all be happy as Larry.
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    No. The one thing you can say about Monaghan is that he gives his 110% every game.

    My point is that his 110% is 40% of a Buderus and our attack suffers because of it.
     

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