Andrew johns talking to manly

[Technical Coach]

Slow news day i doubt if it's for the Assistant Coaching role, probably just an increased presence or exclusivity agreement.

Might also be a case of increasing his workload during the off season to help put in place better attacking structures. Good to see Tooves is addressing our major issue that flows into our defence not the other way around.

Also tightening up our mid sections with muscle not fat and a 2-3% weight reduction per player(well most) to increase our sharpness.

Muscle weighs more than fat so the above in some ways sounds contradictory but you can get a better balance in some players----to be honest with some players it's more about dropping a waist size than actual playing weight.

Stick to technical subjects mate because your fitness trainer knowledge is s**t. Muscle doesn't weigh more than fat.

Obviously your not a fitness trainer or a worthy one as any half decent fitness trainer(or individual into fitness) would know the angle i was taking in regards to my comment and i would not need to elaborate.

 

[Ralphie]

I'm confused are we talking about the "love muscle" ?

Uhmmmmm........that's a gland.

 

[globaleagle]

I'm confused are we talking about the "love muscle" ?

Uhmmmmm........that's a gland.

gland you cleared that up.

 

[Napper]

Slow news day i doubt if it's for the Assistant Coaching role, probably just an increased presence or exclusivity agreement.

Might also be a case of increasing his workload during the off season to help put in place better attacking structures. Good to see Tooves is addressing our major issue that flows into our defence not the other way around.

Also tightening up our mid sections with muscle not fat and a 2-3% weight reduction per player(well most) to increase our sharpness.

Muscle weighs more than fat so the above in some ways sounds contradictory but you can get a better balance in some players----to be honest with some players it's more about dropping a waist size than actual playing weight.

Stick to technical subjects mate because your fitness trainer knowledge is s**t. Muscle doesn't weigh more than fat.

Yes it does. This is why you can do weights, look leaner yet weigh less.

 

[master blaster]

how did the club get into this position,oh thats right the Hussler,will we ever be in a good position again

 

[Briza]

I hope Joey gets the gig. We've invested heavily in our young halves and we need to get them playing to their maximum. I think Joey can get the best out of them.

Exactly, well said!

 

[ALinda]

There was an interview with him in the Daily Telegraph last Thursday (Oct 11) by Andrew Webster. Here is imo the interesting part and relevant to this subject - quote:

AW - "Now, he feels an obligation to put something into others, even if he is the most sought-after halves specialist in both rugby codes."
AJ - "That's my real love. It's great to see two young halves from Manly (Keiran Foran and Daly Cherry-Evans) and the way they have come on. You have to make the defence do the opposite of what you are going to do. If you're going to run, make them think you will pass. It's an illusion."
AW - "Would he coach full-time, then?"
AJ - "I didn't handle the pressure that well when I played, and I had control of everything. I wouldn't put my family through it."

If he's talking to Manly, I'd say from that interview that he'd be keen to at least coach our halves. However, whether he would devote the time to be Tooves' Assistant remains to be seen. I hope so!
Also he lives on the Northern Beaches, which may help our cause.

 

[The Who]

...Whether Johns is hired or not, Manly still face pressure to remain under the NRL salary cap for next season......

Well that was relevant to the story fatfrog ritchie.
Stick your empty head back underground.

Yes. The salary cap doesn't cover staff, so it is totally irrevalent.

 

[Jax24]

Yeah Id love this to become reality. As some have said already alot has been invested in our young halves so it only makes sense to maximize your assets. Who better than an immortal and someone who has formerly been involved with the club and seems to have a real interest in our halves. He knows they have the potential to be one of best halves pairings of their generation. I have to say this year DCE and Fozz didnt look as fluent as they did in 2011. I understand Fozz was injured for a period of times and they had a new coaching regime but they werent as consistent and efficient as they were previously. While I understand Joeys specialty is the halves just his articulate knowledge of the game and how to control a team aka organize the forwards as well as the backline can only be positive. While it is a risk I think it's worth a chance. As some have mentioned as long as he is professional and doesn't bring a negative effect to the team aka the drink, the drugs, the partying, then I have no problem. I would love to have 2 of the greatest little men to ever play coaching the team. Tooves being pound for pound one of players and Joey one of the smartest halves ever. I understand he doesn't have major experience as a coach but I would probably give him a opportunity to prove himself.

 

[bennyeagle]

The way I see it when des was around he took the backs and tooveys ran the forwards with the help o some others, I remember a player saying that, so if joey was appointed I'd say he would work with the backs and tooveys would take the forwards

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

I'm not a fan. I'd like to hear an apology for 97.

Many would share that view.

As for me, it is almost 3 weeks since we have been reigning premiers and that feels like way too long.

We have a strong club culture, so if he can enhance our playing performance, make him a good offer.

 

[Technical Coach]

Slow news day i doubt if it's for the Assistant Coaching role, probably just an increased presence or exclusivity agreement.

Might also be a case of increasing his workload during the off season to help put in place better attacking structures. Good to see Tooves is addressing our major issue that flows into our defence not the other way around.

Also tightening up our mid sections with muscle not fat and a 2-3% weight reduction per player(well most) to increase our sharpness.

Muscle weighs more than fat so the above in some ways sounds contradictory but you can get a better balance in some players----to be honest with some players it's more about dropping a waist size than actual playing weight.

Stick to technical subjects mate because your fitness trainer knowledge is s**t. Muscle doesn't weigh more than fat.

Yes it does. This is why you can do weights, look leaner yet weigh less.

More often than not you look leaner and put on weight unless your going from fat/obese to fit levels then you will see a weight drop due to the huge difference in actual body size.

I always put on weight when i'm doing weights and most NRL players are the same with more slim dimensions. Players aim for an increase in weight due to muscle from the previous year at the end of preseason training.(usually the young nrl players each year will try and add 2kgs of muscle weight per year especially the under 23's)

 

[manlyfan76]

What weighs more my fat or my muscle? I thought it was the same thing!

 

[DSM5]

fat is fat, and muscle is muscle. When one eats lots of cream buns, fat is the result, not muscle. Tinkler has lots of fat, not muscle, around his stomach. You get rid of fat by exercise and diet. You build muscle with weights and protein additives. Muscle weighs more than fat.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Tinkler is not fat. He just looks fat because keeps his wallet strapped under his shirt.

 

[Napper]

fat is fat, and muscle is muscle. When one eats lots of cream buns, fat is the result, not muscle. Tinkler has lots of fat, not muscle, around his stomach. You get rid of fat by exercise and diet. You build muscle with weights and protein additives. Muscle weighs more than fat.

You also burn fat from doing weights. Believe it or not your body can continue to burn fat for up to 4 hrs after a workout consisting of weights only.

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Slow news day i doubt if it's for the Assistant Coaching role, probably just an increased presence or exclusivity agreement.

Might also be a case of increasing his workload during the off season to help put in place better attacking structures. Good to see Tooves is addressing our major issue that flows into our defence not the other way around.

Also tightening up our mid sections with muscle not fat and a 2-3% weight reduction per player(well most) to increase our sharpness.

Muscle weighs more than fat so the above in some ways sounds contradictory but you can get a better balance in some players----to be honest with some players it's more about dropping a waist size than actual playing weight.

Stick to technical subjects mate because your fitness trainer knowledge is s**t. Muscle doesn't weigh more than fat.

Yes it does. This is why you can do weights, look leaner yet weigh less.

More often than not you look leaner and put on weight unless your going from fat/obese to fit levels then you will see a weight drop due to the huge difference in actual body size.

I always put on weight when i'm doing weights and most NRL players are the same with more slim dimensions. Players aim for an increase in weight due to muscle from the previous year at the end of preseason training.(usually the young nrl players each year will try and add 2kgs of muscle weight per year especially the under 23's)

You only need to look at the biggest loser. Some weeks they lose 0 weight but theyve probably gained muscle. Piss poor weights/fat measurements on that show.

 

[mike walker]

g'day all,i reckon the ratio of fat to muscle on your body means nothing if you haven't got the heart or the head?Is that a bell ringing?
cheers mike

 

[wombatgc]

Poor 'ol Stevo, TC will fillett him by the time this thread is done!

 

[Technical Coach]

fat is fat, and muscle is muscle. When one eats lots of cream buns, fat is the result, not muscle. Tinkler has lots of fat, not muscle, around his stomach. You get rid of fat by exercise and diet. You build muscle with weights and protein additives. Muscle weighs more than fat.

You also burn fat from doing weights. Believe it or not your body can continue to burn fat for up to 4 hrs after a workout consisting of weights only.

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Slow news day i doubt if it's for the Assistant Coaching role, probably just an increased presence or exclusivity agreement.

Might also be a case of increasing his workload during the off season to help put in place better attacking structures. Good to see Tooves is addressing our major issue that flows into our defence not the other way around.

Also tightening up our mid sections with muscle not fat and a 2-3% weight reduction per player(well most) to increase our sharpness.

Muscle weighs more than fat so the above in some ways sounds contradictory but you can get a better balance in some players----to be honest with some players it's more about dropping a waist size than actual playing weight.

Stick to technical subjects mate because your fitness trainer knowledge is s**t. Muscle doesn't weigh more than fat.

Yes it does. This is why you can do weights, look leaner yet weigh less.

More often than not you look leaner and put on weight unless your going from fat/obese to fit levels then you will see a weight drop due to the huge difference in actual body size.

I always put on weight when i'm doing weights and most NRL players are the same with more slim dimensions. Players aim for an increase in weight due to muscle from the previous year at the end of preseason training.(usually the young nrl players each year will try and add 2kgs of muscle weight per year especially the under 23's)

You only need to look at the biggest loser. Some weeks they lose 0 weight but theyve probably gained muscle. Piss poor weights/fat measurements on that show.

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One of the ways to keep your weight under control is to build muscle which slightly raises your metabolism, not enough to rely on but in combination with a good diet and other factors it helps along the way.

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Poor 'ol Stevo, TC will fillett him by the time this thread is done!

Nah it's too easy to take aim at the class of people who alter their first name to a stock standard blue collar "o"--- i need to feel intellectually challenged before i resort to such measures as a result of my own insecurities and flaws.

 

[MK Eagle]

Regardless of the fat/muscle arguements on what weighs more which is obvious enough when comparing the 2 in level size proportions, not weight, I fail to see all these players who carry too much anyway??
Not 1 outside back , fullback or half is carrying too much fat??
Only Rose who struggled to crack the 17 was overweight in the fowards imo.
The strength & conditioning at Manly is 1 of the best in the NRL already so if we stick to the Johns scenario, he adds brains not fitness.