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  1. mozgrame

    mozgrame Well-Known Member

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    Cement trucks, Bear hunts, Northern Eagles and Silvertails: 10 reasons why Manly have made enemies

    By Phil Rothfield
    The Daily Telegraph
    September 22, 2011 8:52AM


    How many people do you know whose second team is Manly? Zero?

    For the uninitiated, here are the 10 reasons Manly have made so many enemies over four decades.

    1. The Silvertails

    With no salary cap in the 1980s, the rich bought champions and the poor survived on chook raffles, meat trays, juniors and cheap country imports.

    Ken Arthurson had the biggest chequebook in the ARL via a thriving leagues club and superstar Bob Fulton's close friendship with the late Kerry Packer.

    In 1980 Arthurson almost destroyed Western Suburbs Magpies by signing second-rower Les Boyd, hooker Ray Brown and fullback or centre John Dorahy in one swoop. Grudge matches between the two clubs became known as the Silvertails versus Fibros.

    But even today, Arthurson still brushes off criticism of the Magpies raid. "Did it ever occur to people that Wests pinched those three blokes in the first place? Dorahy from Illawarra, Boyd from Cootamundra and Brown from the Riverina," Arthurson said.

    Still, no other club could compete with them financially. They even tried to pinch Peter Sterling from Parramatta in the mid-1980s and Wally Lewis and Gene Miles from the Brisbane competition.

    "I laughed at the Silvertails tag because Freddy Jones used to work on the wharf and Terry Randall drove a truck," Arthurson said. "They were as working class as you could get."

    2. Northern Eagles

    Manly were blamed for killing off North Sydney Bears after a disastrous merger that lasted just two years. It was a marriage that was never going to work because of such a long history of rivalry between the two clubs.

    It did nothing for Manly's popularity as the battling Bears were everyone's second team in those days because they were so hopeless.

    Even these days, as the Bears attempt to re-establish themselves on the Central Coast, the rivalry still exists with Manly desperately trying to keep north of the harbour bridge as their own junior nursery.

    3. Bear hunt

    It wasn't just Western Suburbs who felt the pain of Manly's spending power. The Bears lost champion winger Ken Irvine to Manly in 1971 and the freakish Cliff Lyons in 1986. Manly also signed John Gray and Don McKinnon from North Sydney.

    "They came to us because they wanted to win premierships," said veteran official Peter Peters, "That was as important as money. They wanted to be win." Arthurson backs it up by revealing: "I tried to talk Ken Irvine into staying at Norths because he was a life member, but he was determined to sign with us."

    4. Arko's power

    Ken Arthurson was the boss of the NSW Rugby League and ARL from 1983 to 1995 when the Super League war erupted. For more than a decade he was the most influential figure in the game.

    Manly's perceived favouritism was one of the reasons so many of the clubs were prepared to listen to Super League executives when the breakaway competition was being discussed and planned. And it was the chance to finally become as wealthy as the Sea Eagles.

    5. Whingers

    One of the most famous quotes in rugby league history came from Bob Fulton when he declared he'd like to run referee Bill Harrigan over with a cement truck.

    The Sea Eagles refuse to just sit back if they feel the NRL has treated them poorly. Coach Des Hasler is still complaining about his champion fullback Brett Stewart being suspended for a month in 2009.

    6. Seven tackles

    Manly beat Parramatta in a semi-final replay in 1978 on the way to beating Cronulla in the grand final - thanks to controversial referee Greg Hartley. Hartley blundered with his tackle counts seven times - six times favouring Manly.

    He also sent off Ray Price, who was later exonerated by the judiciary.

    7. Rabbitoh raid

    Manly are the only club to win premierships in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s. They did it in 1972 by pinching champion prop John O'Neill and Test centre Ray Branighan from South Sydney, outraging Rabbitohs fans.

    Arthurson said: "It's funny no-one complained when we lost our greatest player in history Bob Fulton to Eastern Suburbs, yet we weren't allowed to sign anyone."

    8. The Poms

    Manly have hardly won a competition without importing champions from Great Britain. From Malcolm Reilly, who was their greatest import, to 1987 grand final man-of-the-match Kevin Ward, the Sea Eagles had the cash to raid the English rugby league as often as other Sydney teams.

    They had three world-class Poms in 1976 - lock Steve Norton, halfback Gary Stephens and second-rower Phil Lowe - when they steamrolled their way to the title.

    9. The 'Bozo' Factor

    The league Immortal has always been perceived as having a huge influence over selections for representative football.

    Whether it's City-Country, State of Origin or the Kangaroos, Bozo has been involved as either a coach or selector for more than two decades.

    Whenever a Manly player is chosen in borderline decisions, it's supposedly because Bozo is involved.

    "Bozo's the most competitive person you'll ever meet," Arthurson said. "Of course he loves Manly, but he loves winning too. He has always picked the best available in consultation with the coaches, no matter what club they play for."

    10. Enemies within

    Paul Vautin v Bob Fulton; Peter Peters v the current board; Max Delmege v the Penn family. Don't worry about fans from other clubs, they even don't get on among themselves. The 1987 premiership-winning skipper Paul Vautin fell out with coach and league Immortal Bob Fulton. They didn't speak for years.

    Vautin also fell out with the late chief executive Doug Daley when he was forced to join the Roosters in 1990 after Manly refused to make him an offer.

    Max Delmege, the former property tycoon who bailed out the club when they were broke and about to fold, couldn't get on with the Penn family.

    Club legend Peter "Zorba" Peters has been involved in feuds with the Delmege family, more recently with new chief executive David Perry, and board members Melinda Gainsford-Taylor and Bob Reilly.


    VERY old news I know, but I'm bored and felt like the giggle. Haters gonna hate.
     
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  2. double hoops

    double hoops Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Cliffy was a Nev Nobody in 1986. Manly had just lost a superstar in Phil Blake. Awesome reporting. Phil is such a Rothtool.
     
  3. globaleagle

    globaleagle Où est mon chapeau Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I should print that out and use the feelings it gives me as the warm snuggly blankie that it is.
     
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  4. Shoe1

    Shoe1 Well-Known Member

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    There's mistakes in every reason. So the fibros silvertails thing started after 1980 right Roth? Arko's answers are gold.
     
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  5. bob dylan

    bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Funny how the Bear Hunt fails to mention Bruce Walker who was a champion Bear and Mitchell Cox.
     
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  6. Alan

    Alan Well-Known Member

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    We had a successful Leagues club and could afford players.. that's a bad thing?

    players wanted to play for a successful club .. that's a bad thing?

    One of our administrators was so competent he was the boss of the ARL for two successful decades .. that's a bad thing?

    One of our ex-players is so well respected he has become an international coach and selector for 3 decades ... that's a bad thing?

    Drama in a football club .. whoda figgered?

    Rothstool, you are a knob. People hate Manly because it is easier to pull someone down to your level than it is to raise yourself up to theirs.
     
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  7. EagleFromMay1967

    EagleFromMay1967 In bed before the room got dark.

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    getting a woody - reading those reasons why we're hated . . . . . :)
     
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  8. manlyfan76

    manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    So an Immortal is involved picking rep teams. Wow who would have thought.
    The thing with R-Tool is he never presents viable alternatives, just throws mud.
     
  9. Frogz

    Frogz Don't mess with the goat, he has photos. Premium Member

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    I stopped at the "by Slothfield" bit.
     
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  10. mickqld

    mickqld Sack Greenslime 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    We were so favoured by Arko rigging the competition from 1983-1995 that we won..........1 premiership.
    What a fu..ing tool.
     
  11. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    He's trying to make out that killing off the bears was a bad thing. Please..... We did the NRL and the RL public a favour. A mercy killing if ever there was one.
     
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  12. mickqld

    mickqld Sack Greenslime 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Bozo has so favoured Manly players in Blues and Kangaroo teams that we have............1 rep player in NSW.
    What a fu..ing tool.
     
  13. Shoe1

    Shoe1 Well-Known Member

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    Funny the nrl is stepping into save the knights. Nobody saved the others like newtown, norths, glebe etc.
     
  14. mickqld

    mickqld Sack Greenslime 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Apparently we won the '72 grand final by playing only 2 players O'Neill and Brannigan.
    What a fu..ing tool.
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    Apparently importing poms is a reason to hate teams. He must hate nearly every team in the comp except us then, especially Dogs,Souffs,Warriors,Parra.
    What a fu..ing tool.
     
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  15. mozgrame

    mozgrame Well-Known Member

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    The NRL signed the Bears death warrant when they gave them that wink and a handshake deal where if they spent the last of their money to move to Gosford, they'd be fine.
     
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  16. ManlyBacker

    ManlyBacker Winging it Staff Member

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    What an idiot. Apart from low-level 'journalists' constantly putting the hate on Manly there is always the fact that the pinnacle of the Shark's achievements centered around the importation of Tommy Bishop. Remember him Rothtool???? Or maybe even Cliff Watson? Both came from England.
     
  17. wedgetail eagle

    wedgetail eagle Well-Known Member

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    2nd team?
    What true believer ever has a 2nd team?!!
     
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  18. eagles2win

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    My hatred for the Bears is at the point where I think Manly should've named the NRL team to play them this weekend and beat them by 80
     
  19. Shoe1

    Shoe1 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly you're not a serious supporter if you have time for a 2nd team
     
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  20. mickqld

    mickqld Sack Greenslime 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    My 2nd team is Manly NSW cup
     
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