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5 burning questions: Sea Eagles

Discussion in 'News' started by SeaEagleRock8, Oct 21, 2014.

By SeaEagleRock8 on Oct 21, 2014 at 9:20 PM
  1. SeaEagleRock8

    SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    By Dan Walsh

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    With several senior players reportedly wanting out, will Manly be forced into a rebuilding phase in 2015 or will predictions of the side's demise once again prove wide of the mark? Here are some of the club's big questions ahead of 2015.

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Discussion in 'News' started by SeaEagleRock8, Oct 21, 2014.

    1. SeaEagleRock8

      SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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      With several senior players reportedly wanting out, will Manly be forced into a rebuilding phase in 2015 or will predictions of the side's demise once again prove wide of th[​IMG]e mark? Here are some of the club's big questions ahead of 2015.

      1. Has Anthony Watmough played his last game in maroon and white?

      If you're one who's sold on the perpetual rumour mill of rugby league land; put the house on it. Watmough will be wearing blue and gold soon enough. Which means the question should probably read: Who replaces the 31 tackles and 120 metres 'Choc' churns out at a thousand miles an hour each week? It would be a sad way for Watmough's 11 years and 278 matches (plus another 8 in Northern Eagles garb) of service to come to a close, with rumours and innuendo about his relationship with Daly Cherry-Evans dogging his and the Sea Eagles' 2014 campaign. Should the NSW and Kangaroos star remain on the peninsula, it'll certainly make for interesting viewing. All that speculation about a not-so-happy Manly family won't just disappear.

      2. Is this the actual end?

      Two years ago Manly were blown apart 40-12 by the Storm in the 2012 preliminary final and the writing was supposedly on the wall. The house that Des built was starting to crumble. To which the Sea Eagles responded, true to form, with a run that took them all the way to a compelling 2013 grand final showdown with the Roosters, who they led 18-8 with less than half an hour to play. So it's a case of softly, softly when it comes to predicting the decline of one of the most dominant sides of the past decade. But with Watmough all but out the door, talk Brett Stewart is hot on his heels, Jamie Lyon, Steve Matai and Matt Ballin on the wrong side of 30 and a worrying lack of depth up front all compounded by their limp departure from this year's finals; plenty will again be piling in should there be any early signs that the Sea Eagles are on the wane in 2015.

      3. How much of a distraction will all the contract drama be this time around?

      Just as significant to Manly's fortunes is the fact that all the brouhaha over who signs what at the club and for how much is, if anything, set to intensify over the course of 2015. Expect Stewart and Matai to again request releases if Watmough's is granted, and then there's the fact Cherry-Evans and Kieran Foran are both due for sizable top ups on their current deals and will be fair game for the rest of the competition come November 1. As the pre-eminent halves pairing in the game, should either be allowed to go to market they're both capable of attracting $1 million a year. Not to mention Ballin, Clinton Gutherson, David Williams, Justin Horo, Michael Chee-Kam and 11 other members of the extended squad are all coming off contract at the end of next year. Geoff Toovey has a hell of a job balancing the maroon and white chequebook.

      4. Where do they find the extra grunt needed up front?

      Manly always looked a big man or two short in 2014 when compared to the collection of behemoths running around for the likes of Canterbury, North Queensland and Souths. Now with Jason King retiring a year after Brent Kite's departure, their prop rotation again looks a tad skinny, with Brenton Lawrence leading youngsters Jesse Sene-Lefao, Josh Starling, James Hasson and Dunamis Lui. All showed a fair bit of promise last year but as a pack they struggled to lift in the big games as the season wore on, leaving them ranked dead last for metres made from hit-ups. A bloke like Willie Mason or Jack Stockwell would make Toovey's life a fair bit easier over there across the Spit Bridge.

      5. What happens if they cop another batch of injuries?

      The Sea Eagles' forward depth was tested late in the piece when Jamie Buhrer and Ballin went down with season-ending injuries, and Watmough's exit, not to mention Glenn Stewart's, will again test their back-row stocks. Out wide there's healthy competition, and Jack Littlejohn showed enough promise in five starts last year to offer reasonable coverage in the halves should Foran or Cherry-Evans be unavailable for a short period, but amongst the big boppers the pickings are a tad slim, particularly if there are any long-term casualties.

      http://www.nrl.com/5-burning-questions-sea-eagles/tabid/10874/newsid/82608/default.aspx?cid=NRL-HP-Featured
       
    2. niccipops

      niccipops un echidna spillo mia bevanda Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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      Despite the rumour mill re. the 'disgruntled', ongoing contract negotiations, small forwards, etc. I reckon we'll go alright next year.

      The off season is boring.
      I'm even excited about preseason training starting up soon.

      GOOOOOOOO MAAAAAAAANLY!!!
       
    3. Masked Eagle

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      I'm still confident we will be a contender. The NRL title is up for grabs next year. Most important thing is as close to as many of our best 17 staying healthy, a few of the younger boys continue their improvement and the established stars maintain their performance and we're as big a chance as anyone.
       
    4. sheridanstand78

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      Lol "The sky is falling, the sky is falling" blah blah blah!!

      Yet another article that is all doom and gloom about the future, littered with inuendo and falsehoods.

      I wrote an article a week or so ago about nrl.com.au. This site is basically just spewing out the News filth trash.

      Guys its boring, come on, please write fairly about each club, this is the NRL official site and the bias from the writers is really boring now!
       
    5. mmmdl

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      They're fair questions, but I challenge pretty much any team to have 4 first choice forwards out in finals games like we did and see how they perform - no club can cover for that.
       
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    6. Canteen Worker

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      I think the article is well balanced. We had the team to get to the finals but not the squad to win it. The class in our backs is apparent - but some more grunt and go forward is essential.

      The fact that we had the least metres of the contenders is something to turn around.

      Choc, who seems to be gone, will be missed. Who will step up? We will miss his workrate. I think he is making a massive error in leaving, missing out on a Beaver-like end to his career as a one club man, but so be it.
       
    7. globaleagle

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      *You know it's the off season when.......


      http://www.silvertails.net/forum/Thread-News-5-burning-questions-Sea-Eagles?pid=617503#pid617503
       
    8. COMMANDER

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      "as a pack they struggled to lift in the big games as the season wore on, leaving them ranked dead last for metres made from hit-ups."
       
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    9. Shoe1

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      We play a unique style, and would have been minor premiers if not for that hiccup v eels, and premiers without injuries. The hit up stat is simplistic.
       
    10. COMMANDER

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      Shoe we would have been squashed even if we had our best team on the paddock.

      Souths V Manly GF would have played out in a very similar fashion to Souths V Dogs.
       
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    11. The Who

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      Souffs won the comp because their top 25 players were all fit and available to play in the GF (Luke was suspended). There were 5-6 clubs that could have won the comp if they had such luck/injury management. We were one of them. The 'Riff had 7-8 top line players out.
      For mine, injuries at critical stages on the season are the single most influential reason for success or failure - just shading one-sided refereeing.
       
    12. Moondog

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      2. Is this the actual end?
      Yes, this is the actual end. We're toast. May as well give up now. We'll never win again, blah, blah, blah......
       

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