2013 GRAND FINAL Manly Sea Eagles v Sydney Roosters Game day thread

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Oct 3rdGrand Final Preview: The Battles

The 2013 NRL Grand Final is now only 3 sleeps away. Betting agencies have the Roosters are slight favourites whilst social media sites seem to have an even split. There are some brutal battles across the park headlined by Sonny Bill Williams and Anthony Watmough whilst the battle of the halves features the 2 best halves combinations of 2013. At fullback we have the battle or two former Origin and Kangaroo fullbacks whilst we have possibly the 2 most underrated number 9’s battling it out. Monstasport.com takes a look at the individual battles on and off the field that will help decide just who lifts the 2013 NRL Premiership trophy.



Fullbacks: Anthony Minichello vs. Brett Stewart

The battle of the fullbacks is becoming a more important one which each passing season. They set the tone for a set of six with their kick returns, their backup play is extremely important and their ability to play like a third half seems to be an increasing trend. In this contest you have two former NSW and Kangaroo’s fullbacks. Although both have had injury affected seasons, both seemed to be at their destructive best in the grand final qualifiers and both will play in important part this Sunday. For mine Brett Stewart is a little more dangerous in attack, and has an almost unbelievable try scoring record. Manly 1 – 0 Roosters

Wingers: Daniel Tupou and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck vs. David Williams and Jorge Taufua

Dally M winger of the year RTS and Tupou combine height, power, speed and skill and have formed the most lethal wing combination of the season. Their battle with the former NSW winger David Williams and future NSW winger Jorge Taufua will be one to savour. David Williams was equal top try scorer this season whilst Jorge Taufua may have topped the charts if he hadn’t been suspended for the final 2 games of the season. RTS is the most dangerous winger in the air in the competition whilst Tupou has matured into a future representative player. RTS’s try was the difference between the teams in their round 1 of the finals matchup, and this battle may decide it again. Roosters 1 – 1 Manly

Centres: Michael Jennings and Shaun Kenny-Dowall vs. Jamie Lyon and Steve Matai

Perhaps THE battle of all battles is in the centres this Sunday. NSW Origin centre Michael Jennings and the man who would be first centre picked in any side in the world Jamie Lyon are absolutely key to their side’s chances of claiming the title this weekend. Lyon, the current Dally M centre of the year has hit some royal form at the right time for Manly and will again be their main source of attack. Jennings has set the competition alight after his move from the base of the mountains. Kenny-Dowall has come good after a shocking start to the season and has given the Roosters something they’ve lacked since their grand final charge a few years ago. Matai doesn’t seem to show any signs of age and having seemingly cut the nonsense out of his game, has been able to concentrate on busting defences open. I get the feeling the more experienced Manly paring JUST edge it here based on the fact Kenny-Dowall can be rocks or diamonds, whereas you know what you’re going to get with Matai. Manly 2 – 1 Roosters



Halves: James Maloney and Mitchell Pearce vs. Kieran Foran and Daly Cherry-Evans

The NSW halves vs. the Kiwis 5/8 and QLD’ers utility. I’m hoping Pearce beats the flu and is at his very best as this battle of the halves is one I am looking forward to. All four men have played in a grand final, with the Manly pairing having beaten Maloney’s Warriors a few years ago. Pearce and Maloney will want to square the ledger and their ability to lift in the biggest game of all will be key to their side’s chances. Pearce has copped criticism for going missing in big games and will want to put that talk to rest. Maloney had a great Origin series but was a step behind the QLD pairing. This is a razor thin decision but the experience and performance of the Manly pairing in big games has been second to none. Manly 3 – 1 Roosters

Hookers: Jake Friend vs. Matt Ballin

Perhaps the two most underrated number 9’s in the competition face off on Sunday evening. Both have had amazing years, with Friend having his best year to date. Ballin has the big game experience having played for Queensland in 2010 and having won a title with the Manly team in 2011. Fiend has a Prime Minister’s XIII to his name and he weren’t playing in an era dominated by Cam Smith and Robbie Farah he may have been in line for more rep honours at years end. This could honestly go either way but Ballin, having played in the cauldron of Origin gets the advantage, although I would not be surprised to see Friend put in a near man of the match performance on Sunday either. Manly 4 – 1 Roosters



Second Row: Sonny Bill Williams and Aidan Guerra vs. Anthony Watmough and Justin Horo

It’s very possible one of these two will move into lock to accommodate the return of Boyd Cordner but considering his injury, Cordner will likely start from the bench. Sonny Bill is the favourite for the Clive Churchill medal, whilst Aidan Guerra should be coming off a best on ground for his fantastic efforts last week. Watmough is sure to be on the plane to the World Cup after yet another brilliant season. Justin Horo may be the surprise packet of the season after producing a year of performances well above his price tag. If there’s a clear winner in this battle, there could be big trouble for the opposition. Form wise this one goes the way of the Rooster’s second row, especially if Cordner is able to go into the game fully fit. Roosters 2 – 4 Manly

Locks: Frank-Paul Nuusausala vs. Glenn Stewart

How much better are Manly with their NSW representative lock back in the side? That right side is without a doubt the most dangerous in the NRL when firing, with Stewart, Lyon and Williams tearing many a side apart. Frank-Paul is yet another Rooster having a career best year. He is a big chance to play in the world cup for New Zealand in what will be an intimidating forward pack to say the least. You get the feeling that Stewart is in a difference class after playing so many big games although Frank-Paul will not go down without a fight. There is a chance he will move back to the bench making this Stewart vs. Cordner, Williams or Guerrera but the way the teams were named, this is one for the Brookie boys. Manly 5 – 2 Roosters

Front Row: Jared Waerea-Hargreaves and Sam Moa vs. Brent Kite and Brenton Lawrence

If JWH hadn’t spent so many weeks on the sideline for his hit on George Rose, he may have pushed Andrew Fifita for the prop of the year honours. JWH and Sam Moa have always had the size to punch holes in defences but this year they seem to have found the belief to match their size. Brent Kite has been amazing for Manly, including his best on ground in the 40-0 flogging of the Storm and will hope to end his Eagles career on a high note. Lawrence is another bargain buy for the Eagles, putting in performances that far exceed his contract value. This will be a tough contest, especially in the first 15 minutes but I think the Roosters shade this one, mainly thanks to JWH’s aggression and size. Roosters 3 – Manly 5



Bench: Mortimer, Aubusson, Napa and Cordner vs. Gower, Buhrer, Symonds, Rose

It has been said that you can evaluate the strength of your side by the quality of its bench. Looking at the Roosters bench you have a NSW Origin rep, a former rookie of the year, someone who has played over 120 first grade games and a boom youngster who rocked the game’s best forward in Paul Gallen a few years ago. For the Eagles you have 3 tradesmen and a monster who can turn the game with a big 10 minute effort. George Rose has never played big minutes; he’s also never needed to either. He will probably only play 25 or so minutes on Sunday but his efforts against the Bunnies last Friday Night turned the tide. I can’t wait to see him size up JWH and vice versa, but I’m really looking forward to seeing how young Napa fares. Roosters 4 – 5 Manly

Coach: Trent Robinson vs. Geoff Toovey

Trent Robinson was named Dally M coach of the season in his first year in charge of the club, and although I thought Flanagan had a good case for winning, you surely can’t begrudge Robinson’s award. He has turned fringe first graders and rookies into genuine rep possibilities and also reminded Michael Jennings that he is a star. Geoff Toovey has been in the papers thanks to his rants but he has played some serious ‘money ball’ with his signings this season. Both men have shown they have the ability to get the best out of their teams and although Toovey has the experience edge in terms of NRL experience, Robinson is hardly a rookie coach. Tie

Verdict: I expect both sides to come out firing and I fully expect the Roosters to take the early lead, however I believe it will be the experience and skill of a Jamie Lyon, Brett Stewart or Anthony Watmough that will prove to be the difference. I was trying to put a bet on earlier and I genuinely feel this could go either way, but putting it all on the line … Manly by 4 in a reversal of their semi-final just a few weeks ago.


This entry was posted in Previews and tagged Eagles, NRL, Roosters by Daniel and comments are closed.
 
voicefromthehill said:
Boys are on footy show now - we look a little tense, the rooster boys appear just a little more relaxed (a little more).

Was watching the grand final lunch on fox earlier on ang I got the complete opposite perception . The Rorters looked tense and nervous, where our boys were joking and looking ready ( if not completely bored ).

Got to say I reckon both these tv appearances are a complete waste of prep time and serves little or no importance other than to the goons on nein and fox
 
Horo has gone from wooden spooner to grand finalist. I bet the eels are spewing they let him go.
 
Daveagle said:
voicefromthehill said:
Boys are on footy show now - we look a little tense, the rooster boys appear just a little more relaxed (a little more).

Was watching the grand final lunch on fox earlier on ang I got the complete opposite perception . The Rorters looked tense and nervous, where our boys were joking and looking ready ( if not completely bored ).

Got to say I reckon both these tv appearances are a complete waste of prep time and serves little or no importance other than to the goons on nein and fox

Glad to hear that - have picked the winner from that for 5 years. We are a shoe in! ;)
 
Players have been dragged from GF luncheon to Fan Day to the Footy show. Long day wearing their suits all day. Rediculous drain on the players for 1 day.
 
I hope for, if not expect a Manly win. Actually the final score may well surprise us. The scores may be further apart than anyone credible is tipping. If the Stewies / Wolfy or Jt can score a couple the ball will be rolling.


I want to say here to all posters that we SHOULD NOT start complaining, recriminating if MWSE dont win.
During or after.
The boys, old men ;) have done us all proud to make it into the GF.

We are up against the deserving Minor Premiers. They have great attack, blanketing defence that moves up really quick and scramble like no other team. They also have star players, they are fit, fast, coordinated, incredibly focussed. To win against them will be very special.

However the betting favours them by 10-15 cents only. RL fans are aware of our lethal attack both sides and our incredible defence in some of our matches. Take the 10-all draw against Storm. 400 + tackles.

This match awaits that singular moment of sheer talent or speed possibly an individual effort, to separate the two sides. As in 73, 78,
you just have the feeling the pressure, the magnitude, will be too much for the least experienced side.

I recall an amazing kick ahead GF try by the Dogs winger Steve Gearin in the mid or early 80's. It could well be a moment like this we have to look forward to. Snake or Jennings ?
 
I agree I'll be mighty pissed off if we were to lose by 4 points to see a bunch if negative people on here Sunday night.

Lets celebrate what we have achieved regardless
 
Daveagle said:
voicefromthehill said:
Boys are on footy show now - we look a little tense, the rooster boys appear just a little more relaxed (a little more).

Was watching the grand final lunch on fox earlier on ang I got the complete opposite perception . The Rorters looked tense and nervous, where our boys were joking and looking ready ( if not completely bored ).

Got to say I reckon both these tv appearances are a complete waste of prep time and serves little or no importance other than to the goons on nein and fox

at the fan day the roosters looked like manly 2007, manly looked relaxed and i got the 2008 feel that they believe they would win


mickqld said:
Players have been dragged from GF luncheon to Fan Day to the Footy show. Long day wearing their suits all day. Rediculous drain on the players for 1 day.

our boys were in casual polos at the fan day
 
Mark from Brisbane said:
I agree I'll be mighty pissed off if we were to lose by 4 points to see a bunch if negative people on here Sunday night.

Lets celebrate what we have achieved regardless

Pretty much this.

Win lose or draw, I'm damn proud of this team, and this club. Regardless of the result there'll be nothing negative from me, as I believe this team deserves nothing but praise from us. It's been a wonderful year, watching the new boys blossom at Manly, and the "regulars" come back time and again with that Sea Eagles glint in their eyes :)
 
KOMORI said:
Mark from Brisbane said:
I agree I'll be mighty pissed off if we were to lose by 4 points to see a bunch if negative people on here Sunday night.

Lets celebrate what we have achieved regardless

Pretty much this.

Win lose or draw, I'm damn proud of this team, and this club. Regardless of the result there'll be nothing negative from me, as I believe this team deserves nothing but praise from us. It's been a wonderful year, watching the new boys blossom at Manly, and the "regulars" come back time and again with that Sea Eagles glint in their eyes :)

Thats why we have an advantage. There is no pressure on us, no weight of expectation on the players like the crush of pressure that went on Souffs and is now on the Rorters especially the 2010 players that are still there. The REAL bad news is that Matt Johns has tipped us to win and so has Laurie Daley. I think we are gone with those 2 riding us.
 
Sigh.

Just set the pvr to record the game and realised that over here in butthole stupid Canada they aren't showing it live, but in fact they are showing it 24 hours later!!!!!!

And for some reason, the first time it's happened, it shows the telecast as only 1 hour long!!!!

Sports net world can go suck a fat one. If i were on twitter or facebook...I'd let them know.

$20 a month for this crap!

"A fishing I shall go."
 
globaleagle said:
Sigh.

Just set the pvr to record the game and realised that over here in butthole stupid Canada they aren't showing it live, but in fact they are showing it 24 hours later!!!!!!

And for some reason, the first time it's happened, it shows the telecast as only 1 hour long!!!!

Sports net world can go suck a fat one. If i were on twitter or facebook...I'd let them know.

$20 a month for this crap!

"A fishing I shall go."

Can't you watch it free on NRL.com?
 
This seems like its a game of two halves (Chez & Foz)
Saturday, October 5th 2013
4:00am-5:00am Sportsnet World National Rugby League: Grand Final : Roosters v Sea Eagles
5:00am-6:00am Sportsnet World National Rugby League: Grand Final : Roosters v Sea Eagles

GE they have a 2 hour version :
Monday, October 7th 2013
5:00pm-7:00pm Sportsnet World National Rugby League: Grand Final : Roosters v Sea Eagles

Hope Manly win big for us, then you can get the Premiers DVD Pack from Santa :angel:
 
voicefromthehill said:
Can't you watch it free on NRL.com?

Nah.

Nrl doesn't allow it in countries were a broadcaster has bought the rights.

+ a vpn overlay usually isn't quick enough to errr..."go fishing" with
 
globaleagle said:
voicefromthehill said:
Can't you watch it free on NRL.com?

Nah.

Nrl doesn't allow it in countries were a broadcaster has bought the rights.

+ a vpn overlay usually isn't quick enough to errr..."go fishing" with

That's a bad situation - I doubt the NRL can do anything about it on the friday arvo before the GF, but if the broadcaster that has the rights isn't actually broadcasting it then you ought to be able to watch in on nrl.com live.

An email to the NRL asking them to get up the canadian rights holder would be in order.
 
HappilyManly said:
GE they have a 2 hour version :
Monday, October 7th 2013
5:00pm-7:00pm Sportsnet World National Rugby League: Grand Final : Roosters v Sea Eagles

Hope Manly win big for us, then you can get the Premiers DVD Pack from Santa :angel:

Took me awhile but I found it! (needed to look at pacific time blah blah)
I'm hoping the 1 hour version is actually the full version and they just haven't updated it yet.

Shoe1 said:
globaleagle said:
voicefromthehill said:
Can't you watch it free on NRL.com?

Nah.

Nrl doesn't allow it in countries were a broadcaster has bought the rights.

+ a vpn overlay usually isn't quick enough to errr..."go fishing" with

That's a bad situation - I doubt the NRL can do anything about it on the friday arvo before the GF, but if the broadcaster that has the rights isn't actually broadcasting it then you ought to be able to watch in on nrl.com live.

An email to the NRL asking them to get up the canadian rights holder would be in order.

I'll wait until tomorrow (my time) and if the schedule isn't updated....I shall take your advice re: email!
 
Seriously im so done with talking about it all now i just NEED to see this game NOW!!!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

I think we have created every possible thread for it. Now we just need Sunday to roll around. Fast!

I CANT WAIT!! GOOOOO MANLY!!!!!
 

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